High mass vs Low Mass Turntables - Sound difference?


As I am recently back playing with analog gear after some 15 years away, I thought I would ask the long time experts here about the two major camps of record players -- high vs low mass-loaded-type tables...

For example, an equivalently priced VPI table (say a Classic, Aries or Prime) versus a Rega RP8/10 or equivalent Funk Firm table...  the design philosophies are so different ... one built like a tank, the other like a lightweight sports car...

Just wondering if the folks here have had direct experience with such or similar tables, and what have been your experiences and sense of strengths and weaknesses of these two different types of tables.



128x128Ag insider logo xs@2xjjss49

Showing 6 responses by shadorne

Heavier plinth and heavy platter is my preference. Lightweight should be for the tone arm.

I never understood the advantage of a light plinth and platter except that it is cheaper to make and less shipping cost.
Manufacturers came up with cheaper plastic turntables in the 70’s and since then all manner of BS to justify saving money with a cheaper design. You only have to walk across the room to hear how badly lightweight designs perform. You can't beat physics - more mass equals greater stability.
@geoffkait   

I didnt do nothing. Just responded to your ignorant post that was "stalking" my initial post.
@dcbingaman


+1 My experience exactly. Geoffkait doesn’t seem to know what "plastic" is and that Vinyl and acrylic are forms of plastic. He clearly thinks that the  majority of light weight turntables are made from something other than plastics. The amount of "hooey" on audiogon seems be directly proportional to Geoffkait activity.
@geoffkait   

Lol. You are wrong on both counts but won't admit it. Blind to your own inflated ego. 

Count 1: You stalked me - anyone can  check this thread to see who started stalking who. I comment first then the stalker (you) immediately strike with a totally incorrect statement.

Count 2: Vinyl and acrylic are forms of PLASTIC 

Hel-lo Hel-lo Hooey Geofkait. You are full of it! And everyone can see that. You are too old and befuddled, ill informed and ignorant to have anything useful to add here on these forums.
Sorbothane is an excellent damping plastic material (another type of plastic polymer). I would agree that a heavy turntable with constrained layer damping or with sorbothane plastic footers will be an improvement on just a heavy turntable alone. 

Note I never said that damping is not good with turntables. I only said that high mass turntables perform better than low mass turntables in my experience. I suspect that very light weight plastic-based material turntables are  just cheap products that are inexpensive to make and low cost to ship. A heavy weight turntable requires commensurate shipping materials and even a crate. 

I maintain that light weight turntables are of greatest benefit to the manufacturer and retailer rather than the end user - cheap to make and a light weight plater can run on a cheaper smaller motor, cheaper to package and ship too.