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High end turntables Why? 2 tonearms

Hello denziens of the analog lounge,

After looking at many high end statment turntables such as the antique Thorens reference to the latest word from Teres in direct drive the Certus 460. I am intrigued by this option. It reminds me of a cutting lathe more then a TT.

Would not the extra arm affect the reproduced nuances of the musical sound as much or more even then say a brass tone arm holder vs aluminum vs stainless steel vs wood to infinity and beyond?

Is this a way to have two approaches available when listening say to acoustic recordings and then a different point of view for classical or jazz with the other arm on the same platform ?

Would one have say two identical arms with different pickups or even two different arms with two different pickups.

Is there an advantage to two arms over two turntables other then the size of the foot print?

Your opinions would be appreciated. I am about to upgrade from my old but once state of the art JVC QL Y66F which while protecting my vinylhas always been "not as good" as the AR it replaced in 85. I love the Michell TT's as well as the Teres. I am not thinking about two tone arms, one Schroder will have to do.

This is just a way of introducing myself to the ladies and gentlemen of the forum.

yours truly
Joseph

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Dear Raul,

Thank you for your considered and thoughtful opinions. You have explained well your approach and ideas towards reaching new levels of oneness with the "sound" of your music. Your attention to the details that have been left unconsidered by others before open new possibilities to make it "real" or as you say "live".

So it is a seperate phono stage for each arm going into a preamp ? Do I understand correctly.? Is this something different then the approach of a pre-amp like the Manley Steelhead which I belive has two MC inputs and and one MM input all adjustable to match the cartridge. Or are you using two completely different phono staged preamplifiers.

Again Raul Thank you for taking the time away from your passion to share your wealth of experiences.

Listening to Wes Mongomery: Road Song A&M CTI SP-3012

Best Regards

Joseph

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rauliruegas
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Dear Joseph: The fact that a phonostage has a two-three position switch does not mean that it has two-three independent phonostages, usually is only one phono stage with a switch.

My phonolinepreamp has in a two box chasis one linepreamp and two independent phono stages: these three preamps are all internally in one of that boxes and the other is the power supply. The Steelhead is only a phono stage that use step up transformers and with out linepreamp: very different approach that my phonolinepreamp.

Btw, I really like West Montgomery.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.
seedseven0dc7
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I use two, wel two decks actualy, for a very simple reason. The first time I listen to new bought second hand Vinyl I use the cheap cartridge to prevent an unnoticed pit rip off the diamond of the quality cartridge.
salectric
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Since no one has responded to Groovey's question re sonic interaction between 2 arms, I'll throw in my 2 cents. I have a Galibier Gavia which has mounting holes for 2 arms. I have a Moerch DP-6 mounted on a Galibier aluminum armboard that is securely bolted to the aluminum base. I have tried mounting other arms (VPI JMW-10 and AQ PT-6) using a wood armboard, and each time there has been an adverse effect on the sound from the Moerch arm. In other words, there must be some resonances in the wood armboard that are affecting the Moerch.

If I were serious about making the second arm option work, I would invest in aluminum armboards for the other arms, and see if that solved the interaction problem. I guess I'm not that serious though. Whenever I have had both arms set up, I have tended to use just one. Maybe if I had a mono cartridge, I would use the second arm more. For now, I have decided it makes more sense just to have a single arm with a stereo cartridge set up to bring out its best.

Enjoy!

Dave
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Thanks for trying that experiment, Dave. I was thinking of doing the same, i.e. second arm on a wooden armboard just to see if it would be worth it before shelling out for the second Galibier armboard. Sounds like doing it right the first time may be the best way to go. BTW, what wood did you try?
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