@Wig, I agree with you about the focus and dimensiality. I have just put a HD3 on my sub and hope to return to conclude the outcome... |
One thing I have noticed in the Hidiamonds is that the sound is really layed back as opposed to my S.R that sounded very forward....
Bacardi |
I am looking forward to adding one to my system. I need more dynamics and soundstage in my system. -le- which component in your set-up did you place it on?
Regards Bacardi |
Sabai; I'm wondering if I could get HiDiamond to put a 32 Amp powercon connector on a power 3 cord and plug that to my powercell 10 SE to my Teslaplex SE(wall) Outlet. Could you imagine the results I'd get. |
@Sabai, thx. I think I will contact Robert as he is exemplary at keeping contact with clients and keeping up with who has what in their system. I need to order a HD7 2M interconnect for my sub as I relocated it after my sub crawl and doing an Audyssey XT32 calibration on it.
@Hifial, thx to you too for the advice but I think I will wait on something I will be experimenting with in a few weeks to see how it will transform my S.R Powercell to a whole new level......
For the record, I.M.O I don't find the HD cables as warm at all.....very natural, micro-dynamic, detailed and layed back-never forward may be some words to define HD...... |
@Hifial, actually, it should benefit my whole system. I will definitely post a review.... |
@Sabai & All, I will second that note...... |
@Fplanner2000, how are your immpressions of the HD power 4 compared to the Power 3? |
@Fplanner2000; all I can say about the P4 is that it is a solidly built piece of work with the best connectors I've seen on a power cord. Very thick but still bendable. I've connected it to my tube integrated and noticed an immediate overall volume increase, soundstage and blackness. I haven't listened to music yet as it was rather late last night but just watched a few minutes of the Dark Night Rising BluRay. Let me know your thoughts on yours in your system...... |
Anyone looking for an HD Power 3, I have one extra. Just e-mail me......HAPPY HOLIDAYS ALL!!!!!!!!! |
I've place it on my Hybrid Tube Integrated. Actually the P4 is so much quieter compared to the P3 rite from the getgo. I would say "Dead Quiet". The soundstage definitely broadened and deepened. I'm at about 150ish hours as I haven't been home much to play anything. I do know it does everything fresh out of the box that the $2800 S.R Tesla hologram D(SE) did after break-in period, and then some. No gimmicks, plugs, adapters, just plug-it-in. I've heard it needs a good 400-500 hours to fully break in. Also the build quality of this piece is nothing I've seen before. Well-well worth it so far....it just gets better and better......I would suggest trying one... |
Hello and MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! to all the Hidiamond people and families and Robert Neill at Worldwide Wholesales....CHEERS:).... |
@Fplanner2000, have your P4's fully broken in and how is your sound with them in your system and the S.R's out. Is your whole system set with HD now? |
@Fplanner2000, I have a P3 on my sub and it replaced a S.R Tesla T3(SE) and from the insertion of the P3 I literally needed to turn my output on my sub down at least 6-8 dB. The bass tightened up and felt more dynamic and fast with the P3 also. I left the HD P3 on the sub and got rid of the S.R. I now have no S.R at all in my system and will never go back.
I am awaiting my Casta Acoustic model A's and can't wait to here them in my system. I hear they are a good match with the HiDiamond cables.... |
@Joeyboynj, I think you should realize that this is a Hidiamond thread and not an S.R thread. We are not promoting S.R in any way. This suggestion should be on the S.R thread. Dont you think....I.M.O. the S.R just ups the dollar figure to either upgrade or keep loyal customers with deep pockets...Also: the P3 blows the Tesla line out of the water at one third of the S.R price. And now the introduction of the P4 which is half of the new Tesla line price tag. If anything, you should be suggestive to the P4 and not the new Element series. Thank you. |
I wonder too if anyone has directly compared the HD P3 or P4 to the new S.R Element series cables. Those who have your comments are surely welcome....Thx. |
@Sabai, I absolutely agree with you about sonics. If I was to order the Oyaide M1/F1 male/female connectors could I change these myself without soldering and will I have a definite upgrade similar to what you described as better sound stage, detail/definition, and tonal qualities/harmonics. I really would like to experiment with that if its a no brainer to swap. |
@Fplanner, I have no desire to try S.R's Element series cords at all. I agree with you 100% as most do. I feel the cleanness of no mpc's, bullets, wires strung all over the carpet. I too enjoy to HEAR what I spent my thousands of hard earned dollars of real unfiltered sound, no gimmicks or anything. Simpler the more real. I wish I realized this sooner but it is just the part of the hobby. It was an experience. But now it's time to listen to the music and topnotch quality, and not the dollar figure. This quality is what very very few cable brands can even come close to and I believe HiDiamond has done it rite with what they've done. And the line of 7-8 years with 1 new powercord(P4) is quite an achievement. The crown of all Kings has done it rite in my experience. And S.R will keep trying with more bullets and more gimmicks, series 2-3-4-5-6-7 etc. as long as it takes more and more adding to the set-up. |
@Joeyboynj, I think what WorldWide Wholesales is trying to say is that they have accounted for all HD P4 power cords in North America , so my question would be; Where did you hear the P4?
I know I received an email from WorldWide Wholesales asking if Joeyboynj borrowed my P4 and the answer was no. |
Wow Sabai, that's like about a $400 upgrade. That's almost double the price of a P3.....Did that price make it worth the quality increase? |
@Sabai, I don't understand the reason for changing the connectors on a HD power 3 cord if you liked the P3 sound for its low price point compared to others. You now have made this a $900 power cord and you have just crimped the wire to the connector without soldering them. What are the positive differences with the new connectors compared to the regular P3 connectors? |
@Yo2tup, I had the same thought about using the same matching string along the way...I have several power 3's going into an S.R QLS9 then into a Teslaplex SE outlet. Wondering if changing the HD connectors to Oyaides then into a R1 or better outlet would have a same characteristic improvement in the end. |
@Denon 1, The P4 performance is greatly improved mostly in the silent / blacker background department. It is extremely silent and the soundstage is a few steps up to me. I would say the dynamics are greater and there is an improvement in the separation of instruments and vocals. Adding at least one P4 in your system is a must to add to the additional characteristic mentioned above to the already amazing dynamics, soundstage, detail, natural realism, focus and dimensiality. |
@Denon1, try the P4 from wall to power distributor first. Let it break in the hours it needs(400-500 max). You have P3's everywhere else so it's pretty easy to swap later to amp or cd. Have fun with it and find the most notable positive effect/differences possible and enjoy........ |
@Fplanner2000, So I have my P4 on my QLS 9 to wall Teslaplex SE. You think I'll get better results with it on my Integrated Tube amp or my Opp 105(Pre-amp)? Should the P4 also go directly to wall Teslaplex SE outlet then to source. |
@Newbie79, I myself haven't tried a P2 power cord but you could always purchase 1 of each and try them and pic from the two. I started my HD with P3's and bought more and moved on to the P4. |
I'm awaiting my ungrounded P4 for my Emotiva pre. It's my second P4 in my system and hoping it'll tighten the bass with less bloat and broaden the soundstage. Etc. |
it really isn't a problem. I have one P4 already and knowing what it is capable of I am thinking it'll just enhance what it has already done. The Emotiva UMC-200 is an amazing piece and wondering what the P4 will do connected to it. |
Don't get me wrong this Emotiva is dynamic as can be, and my bass is at the lowest output of -10. I'm not saying flaws either. The characteristics of this P4 are phenominal but I will try the ungrounded to see the low noise level to the pre. Otherwise even try it on my Oppo 103. See what sounds better. |
@Hifial, just pay for the ad like everyone else. List it and play the game. |
My ungrounded P4 has about 250+ hours on it now and I have noticed an extremely silent noise floor. The soundstage width and depth has increased and the bass seems to have more weight to it. The extension this power cord can do is absolutely amazing. I would suggest "ANYONE", and I stress "ANYONE looking for a topnotch power cord for its price to give the HiDiamond Power 4 a try. You will not need an audition thats for sure. And you will keep it!!!!!! |
@Jackwalker, the ungrounded means the ground is taken out. The ground pin is still there but nothing in the cord. I'm assuming it's capped off. Commonly used for pre amps/processors. |
@Guidocorona, it is a custom order for an ungrounded cord at the factory to be made. |
I switched my HD 7 interconnect on my sub for an XLR2 because my new Pre has XLR. All I can say is that it is a huge improvement in tightness of bass, volume & defenition. Not saying the HD7 wasn't good - just the XLR obviously suits this component set-up. I actually needed to turn my dial on my sub down from 11 o'clock to 10 o'clock. Absolutely amazing!!!!, |
@Jriggy, that's too bad as I need about 8-8.5 feet for my sub... |
Absolutely, I will thirdly enhance paz307's/Joncourage's conclusions of the HiDiamond cabling and will also be off the merry-go-round of cables and rest with the HiDiamonds. I am roughly 92% cabled with HiDiamond and will soon be at 100%.
I will stress the emotional connection you feel with these cables while listening to music is unbelievably a dream. Even a blockbuster bluray draws you into the movie as you are the actor or actress. These are very, very, very special cables........... |
@all, I would like to third Paz307/Joncourage's comments, my system is at 92% and with a few more adjustments I will have all HiDiamond cabling. I will admit that these do need serious break-in, but at the end of the days, you will be amazed and you will be able to jump off that crazy merry-go-round as I have.
There is really something special about these cables from HiDiamond. Wether listening to a musical passage or watching a blockbuster movie, I am drawn into the music/movies with greatest emotions. Absolutely phenominal execution of sound. I can say that where I live, my friends/family come to my house for music and movies and it is just a pleasure to turn that power button on and share what HiDiamond has done........ |
lol. these take so long to post, I thought it didn't take...Oh well. Definitely made the point..... |
Hello all, been busy and away from thread for awhile, in the meantime purchased another P4 to replace an existing P3 on my Isotek conditioner and took the whole system to a greater level. More separation between instruments, vocals are isolated, cleaner and blacker background. A well invested upgrade for sure. |
What I noticed from the P3 to the P4 is that the soundstage is wider and deeper in the P4 and more delicately refined....Definitely bigger sounding.....
The P4's do everything my "SOLD" Synergistic Research Hologram A(SE),D(SE), Precision AC(SE), T3(SE), T2(SE) did in the soundstage department......but thats it......The Hidiamonds added everything else to the bowl....... |
@Joeyboynj, I had the Oppo 105 and didn't like the sound of the analogue from its DAC's so I traded it back for a 103. The midrange sounded way too thin and the high frequencies were too bright. I did let it break in for 200 hours + and just didn't execute what was not there for me.
The 103 has the same power supply and chip for video. I run from the 103 HDMI straight to my plasma then 2.1/5.1 analogues to my Emotiva UMC-200. The UMC-200 was clearly an absolutely better sounding piece and worked great for my system. The difference between the 105 to 103 was put towards the Emotiva(a no brainer move). I am waiting to upgrade to the Emotiva XMC-1 with the TACT calibration. Should be a great piece....Whenever they decide to release.
Ive heard lots on the 5400 and the mod should work really well. How come you don't have a 103 or 105? |
@Kzhtoo, you really need to try a P4 either on your source or Pre. What it will do to your overall sound is huge. The noisefloor lowers even more, your soundstage width/ depth expands, things you never heard before just come through. Really . You need at least one in a Hidiamond fleet...... |
Nice to hear Mribob. Another smart person with a good ear noticing the difference of a better quality cable for less money. It's really that noticeable compared to the S.R cords which I've had in my system and turned around and sold every single one of them and jumped to the Hidiamond cables after researching and first trying one, then another, and many more....they are really special cords..... |
@Highstream, just going to key in...Do you have a P4 power cord or have u tried one? |
@highstream, sorry for late response, I agree with Ozzy in that the P4 sounds calmer and effortless. I hear an inner delicacy with the P4 than a P3. The P4 is a few stairs up from the P3 in many many ways. But that's why it is what it is and demolishes many other cords 2-3 times it's price. |
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Kzhtoo, I would start with the P4 on the amp as it's gauge should be better for your amplification. I am awaiting my P4 20 amp to have the 15 amp connector put back on as I had sold my EAD Powermaster 2000(20amp) and now use a Hybrid tube Integrated(15amp). The P3 that was on it will move to my CEC belt drive player. As to the P4, it is a different league than a P3 for sure. I have 3 in my system and I've said in recent posts, my merry-go-round has stopped here......unless HD finds another realm that we aren't aware of.......Happy Listening.... |
Kzhtoo, I think whichever position you place the P4, when all is said you may have P4's on everything as I do. Your soundstage will expand with greater detail and depth, quieter background, extension and isolation. I couldn't imagine if say a P5 was made what it could achieve more than this cord can......Happy listening. |
Kzhtoo, at about 250-300 hours you should notice a huge increase in midrange to bass extension and volume. I remember saying to myself "where the heck did that come from". I was pretty amazed how they have the levels of increased quality jumps. Then up to 500 it was like full,natural and relaxed information flowing through the whole range....... |
