Hi, need help with Snell Type a iii


Hey guys looking for help with my new acquisition. Just got some mint Snell Type A iii and did a test last night and they are incredible but I feel the bass is a little thick and slow. I'm hoping it is my amp since it is supposed to be a power hungry speaker. I running em with a mccormack dna 0.5 deluxe biwired, is it enough? or could it be that the woofers have new surrounds (done by Miller sound), and could need a break in period? lastly they are placed about a foot off the rear wall and around 4 feet off the sides. thanks for any help
barfbag

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Lucky guy! I have two pairs of Type A's (AII & AIII). I'm currently running the AII's as the III's need surrounds & I haven't gotten around to it. The AII's had new surrounds about 6 months before I got them (now 5 years back). I don't find the base thick/slow at all. Others have heard them and never suggested any base issues.

My power is a DNA-1(bi-wired). I also run a ACI TitanII sub.

You need more power & some break-in time on the woofers. When I first got mine I ran them for a short time with 60 tube watts..sounded nice, but not enough power. As for placement..I've played around with mine quite a bit and now haven't changed the setup for a couple years. Mine sit on 1.25 inch thick slate slabs that sit on top of carpet(this tightened up things up when I made the change from sittng on carpet). They are tilted in to be face-on with the listening position. One rear corner is about 18-20 inches off the front wall, the other corner is maybe 30 inches?? off the wall??..I'd have to measure(tonight). I'll check the side wall distance also.

My listening position is on a balcony over a great room (no wall behind me, speakers are set up on the long wall of a 13 x 16 foot space). My ears sit on one corner of a 103 inch equilateral triangle...I only discovered this after extensive adjustment until the sound was right..I then measured and 103 inches is where the center of the mids sat from me & from each other...go figure.

I've seen a number of posts that say the speakers should be parallel to the front wall and about a foot off...all the research I've done indcates this isn't the case..for me. The bass gets better with them off the wall a bit..too far and it drops off.

Also..with anything better than an average recording, if you can hear sound localized to the speakers, then you don't have them set up right, yet. Mine disappear into the soundstage with nearly any recording.
No spikes yet, maybe I should, but I haven't gotten around to it.

I measured my placement. The room & speaker placement are symmetrical. The inside corner nearest the front wall is 19 inches off the wall. The opposite back corner of the same speaker is 30 inches off the wall. That corner is 24 inches from the side wall.

A few years back I went to a local dealers shop and Richard Vandersteen was there to give a brief discussion on Vandy speakers design, philosophy..etc. After Richard was done my first thought was..yeah...that's what Peter Snell did with the Type A 25-ish years ago. No doubt I live in a small world, but I think the Type A(I, II, III, IIIi) is one of the best deals around. One of these days I'll do the crossover caps...but there's always things higher on the list. I've been toying with the idea of stepping up to a DNA 500, but I haven't been bitten to a point of no return yet.
Larry,

I have a very large bass trap (5 feet high 18 inch deep triangle of 6# rockwool) in each corner just behind each speaker. Possibly this may be helping, but I really haven't noticed any issues with bass. I did notice it tighten up when I set the speakers on the slate slabs. I really should get off my..hindend and get the AIII woofers done. The AIII(12 inch woofer and extra tweeter in the rear) is a fair step up from the AII (10 inch woofer, no rear tweeter). From what I've read, the AIII is the best of the bunch. I just have very little time to work on such things.

And no such luck on the bubbagump boat..as I remember Gump cashed in on his shrimp boat business..I'm sort of on the other end of the stick where the fisn I catch nets out at 20-50 $/#..given the cost of a fishing trip these days.

bb,
I've heard/read the same issues with not messing up what Peter assembled. I'm not an electronic guy by any means, but if I did anything I'd do a one-for-one replacement with the caps & resistors..and probably leave other parts alone. Been a while since I thought about this, but wasn't Peter's tuning done on an inductor?? I think it's "Carl's Speakers..?" that has done work on the crossovers with some success. I looked him up:

http://www.classicloudspeakerservices.com/

bb,

Never heard the Cary, I'm partial to McCormack for power.

I honestly don't swap my hardware in and out that much. My money is on music these days.