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Help with speaker placement in my real life room

Hello all, I just set up a pair of Wilson Sophia 2's in my living room.  They are on wheels at the moment so I can tweak the position.  Can you give me a bit of advice on placement with the limitations of my room? I tried the Wilson Audio Setup Procedure, but as I was on my own, it was very challenging.  I plan to do this again when I have a helper.  I then went the route of getting the speakers as far as I could from the back wall, and varied distance between speakers and toe-in degrees.

What I settled on for now is sounding very good, but perhaps still not perfect, hard to say. The thing is, the triangle is far from equilateral, as you can see from my drawing. I tried to get it close to equilateral, but that would require the right speaker being very close to the side wall. When I did this, it sounded far worse. Do you think this is ok, or by the book, to have a listening distance to speaker distance ratio like the drawing is indicating? I want to know of there is some rule that I am missing that may be holding me back.

The right speaker’s tweeter is 51” from the back wall, and 37” from the side wall

Here is a link to my updated schematic drawing of my room and speaker placement.
https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/5421#&gid=1&pid=6

Thanks!
Mark
marktomaras

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marktomaras OP
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Newbee, hello again!  Different month, different thread...

I just added a photo of the right wall windows on my virtual system page.  As you can see, the bank of windows has a large set of plantation shutters covering it.  As these have an uneven shape, could this be acting as a diffusion panel, and thus not creating a large issue?  How does that affect your recommendation of degree of toe in?

thanks!
marktomaras OP
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 I checked out the Cardas formulas, but it places my speakers beyond the boundaries of what is possible in a non-dedicated room, so I more or less wrote off the Cardas method.  As it is, the tweeters are 51" out from the back wall, and the Cardas method has them significantly further into the room I think. :-(
theres only so much I can get away with!
marktomaras OP
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Thanks tboooe, if you can, send a photo or two of your speaker setup, I'm curious about the unexpected placement.  thanks!
marktomaras OP
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tboooe,  how exactly did you use the meter?  Did you play some sort of test tone?  I have old school tube gear, not a home theater rig or anything like that.  Can I make use of a meter such as this in  my system?  I see that there is a SPL meter app for iPhone, I wonder if it's any good, or if the iPhone mic is up to the challenge.  thoughts?
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/spl-meter/id309206756?mt=8

marktomaras OP
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Tboooe,  very interesting.  I was debating the theory of the perfect equilateral triangle as a starting point, versus the potential advantages of being far further from the side walls, as in the Cardas method.  I can go full equilateral, but my speakers will be darned close to the right wall.  Perhaps I'll give that a shot tonight.  As they are, the speaker to speaker distance is 100" measured at the tweeter, and the tweeter to my ear is more like 135".  They sound good where they are, and I have taped the floor so I can easily get back to this point.  I'll keep you posted.  thanks!
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