help building a new system on a budget...


i want to move on from my "16-year-old-this-is-supposed-to-be-good-and-it's-cheap" system and need some help. i'm looking to go tube -- do i need both preamp and amp, or just an amp? i also want an older pair of floor-standing speakers. my budget is limited (around 600 or 700 would be nice). i basically want something that sounds a little warmer and more real than what i have now, and that will be equally at home w/ records and cd's playing rock, jazz and classical. my room is small (roughly 18 x 12) and has hard wood floors w/ an area rug (if this makes any difference). if you have any suggestions, please shout 'em out. thanks.
hoboken
I agree with the Jolida, for a cd player you may find a Marantz CD-63se of a CD-67se for a good price. Speakers you may consider a used pair of B & W 805 matrix.
Jolida 102b is maybe their sweetest sounding integrated amp; tubed design with EL84 for output tubes. Stock used examples are about 400. Replacement of stock tubes makes a big difference and they are not that expensive; ie, the tubes. Replacement of coupling caps with better caps also is a material improvement. This amp makes around 20 watts and can power a variety of speakers.

To go with this amp I would suggest an Omega single driver speaker. The TS1 and TS2 models are excellent; they have different model numbers now. Brand is Omega and the site is easy to find. Great products and steals at the used prices; new is pretty reasonable, too. Requires stands.

A Living Voice Auditorium speaker, used, is also an excellent choice and a floor stander. Very efficient and highly recommended. Used around 1400/pr and well worth it.

There is a Tannoy 8" pair of pro speakers for sale and they would make an excellent choice, too; price is right at about 550. They are efficient,as well. Requires stands.

Reimer McCullough is another excellent choice used; one for sale at 1150 right now. Requires stands.

Klipsch Heresy speakers are always an easy pick with great efficiency and reasonable prices used. Prices range from 300 to 700 (very high) depending on cabinet finish and overall condition. These should have stands to cant them rearwards a touch and raise them a couple of inches off the floor for best performance.

Meadowlark Kestrel is a favorite of many and a floor stander with a small footprint. Pair for sale used at 600 right now. Efficient enough for a 20 watt amp I think; I'd do a bit more research on this one though.

For a bit more money this speaker is a no brainer. It works well with all kinds of music; I've owned several examples of these. Audio Note ANE/LX at 2200 used. Very, Very efficient and excellent bass response down into the 20s. Requires stands. These range in price, new, from 3500 to 140K!

For a subwoofer for not a ton of money look for a Pinnacle Subsonic or Babyboomer. They are both powered subs with a very small footprint and excellent performance.

For a CD player I'd acquire either a nice used CEC unit for around 600, or so; the model TL51Z is a belt drive and should prove a good choice. I would go another route, though, and acquire a California Audio Labs Alpha DAC (digital to analogue converter)CD and a decent quality to use solely as a transport. The Marantz units mentioned in the prior post are an excellent choice for this purpose. The internal DACs of those CD players are not in the same league as the Cal Audio Alpha, though. If you want DVD capability along with top notch CD transport capabilities look no further than a used Sony DVPS-7000. The sony was the top of the line DVD player when it was introduced and is built like it with a copper chassis. It also has a seperate laser for the DVD and one for the CD. Great video output, to, even though it is not a progressive scan. Used 150 to 200; a bargain.

If you need a phono preamp I'd suggest a Dynavector P75 or, for less money (that is 595), look to the Project offerings.

Good luck.
alright, one more question. if i can find a jolida 202a for a reasonable price, is it worth getting over the 1301 or 1701?
Call Mike at Jolida. You won't find a nicer guy. Terribly honest too. Just tell him the speakers and room you will be using and he will tell you what amp to go with.

Good luck!