This is for Frogman...... Telemann Oboe Concerto in F Minor. Hope original Baroque Oboe is acceptable....? The Acutex LPM420-STR MM Cartridge was able to be picked up 'for a song' NOS only 5 years ago. Loaded at 47K Ohms with about 300pF capacitance, it's a worthy performer. The Grace F9E MM Cartridge is a perennial vintage favourite among many audiophiles (particularly in its 'Ruby' cantilever version). This one is the 'normal' cantilever and sounds its best in my system when loaded at 30K Ohms with about 90pF. ACUTEX LPM420-STR MM CARTRIDGEMounted in DV-507/II ToneArm on solid Bronze ArmPod surrounding vintage Victor TT-101 DD Turntable. GRACE F9E MM CARTRIDGE
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Thank you Harold....
I didn't know how this Thread would be received as I didn't know whether the subtleties of different cartridges.......and we are talking MINUTE subtleties in many instances.......would be able to be discerned via the YouTube sound capabilities? 🤔
To say I'm astounded by Frogman's ability to hear artefacts and nuances that I was never 'consciously' aware of sitting in front of 'The Real Thing'....simply blows my mind 🤯
I have played records for several musicians but none has had the ability to separate the 'performance' from the attempted recreation of the 'musical fidelity'.
I have never heard audio equipment designers speak in the same terms as Frogman....
Current manufacturers seem to have different 'approaches' to WHAT they are trying to accomplish in their designs and HOW they attempt to achieve them.
All Audio Designers would do well I believe.........to carefully read Frogman's comments in this Thread and 'reflect'.....
Only 'good' can come of listening well and taking note 🎼
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That's what I hear Noromance.....
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There were mainly two high-end cartridges that Sony were renowned for in the 80s and both were LOMCs. The XL-55 is perhaps the best known although the XL-88 and XL-88D (with one-piece diamond-cantilever/stylus construction) is the better model IMO. The XL-88D was the most expensive cartridge in the world when it was released and sold in Germany for 7500DM which was more expensive than Volkswagen in its days. There are scant technical specs available on the XL-88 but I found these:- Specs: Type: moving coil Output Voltage: 0.4mV Frequency Response: 10Hz - 50kHz Tracking Force: 1.2-1.8g Mass: 6.8g Channel Separation: > 33dB The compliance is rather high for a MC at 20-6cm/Dyne and they both sport Hyper-Elliptical styli. As the XL-55 and XL-88 appear to share much of their construction, I post it HERE as it's interesting 🤔 The Signet TK-7SU is essentially the same cartridge as the TK-7Ea and TK-7LCa except with a Shibata stylus instead of the Line Contact of the LCa. SONY XL-88 LOMC CARTRIDGEMounted in vintage FR-64S (Silver-Wired) ToneArm on solid Bronze ArmPod surrounding vintage Victor TT-101 DD Turntable. SIGNET TK-7SU MM CARTRIDGEMounted in DV-507/II ToneArm on solid Bronze ArmPod surrounding vintage Victor TT-101 DD Turntable. Apologies for the loss of sound near the start...🤪 |
Thank you Frogman for once again contributing a perspective and detailed analysis which is invaluable to me 😎
Regards
Henry
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Very very interesting Noromance......🤔
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Yes, a vote for same arm/same cartridge comparisons. Haha......I agree that sounds like it would be ideal 🤗 But it ain't going to happen...👎 You know I have 6 arms (5 different ones) on two (different) turntables. So 5 different cartridge geometries with various headshell materials from metal, wood, carbon-fibre..... There is then the issue of cartridge to arm matching..... The Copperhead is the best 'Universal' arm IMO being immaculate with every cartridge....MM, MI, or MC high/low compliance..the 'best'. But it has no removable headshell and is a total 'beast' to set-up correctly. The three Fidelity Research arms (FR-64S and FR-66S) are virtually as 'Universal' whilst having removable headshells and being easy to set-up. The DV-507/II is brilliant for all my high-compliance MMs but is not as great with the MCs. And it is NOT particularly 'happy' with the LDR (you both know this problem)....mis-tracking at the same point on all records 👹 The SAEC WE-8000/ST is happiest with the LOMCs and does less justice to the MMs..... All my arms have been selected to have near-identical performances with the cartridges that suit them the best. You have to trust me on this one....🤥 I have tried the LDR on ALL my arms and head and shoulders....it sounds its best on the FR-66S. The variables are significant I admit......with two very different turntables and five very different arms with cartridges matched to different headshells (and different leads).....the permutations and combinations are outrageous..... But it is what it is 👐 How about I play the same recording with the LDR on the FR-66S and the Signet TK-7LCa on the same arm and turntable? The Signet TK-7SU is identical to the 7LCa except for the Shibata stylus... PS I couldn't agree with you more Frogman.....Deccas never let me down whilst Mercurys and even RCAs often frustrate. |
I also play 'requests'..... LONDON DECCA REFERENCE MI CARTRIDGEMounted in Vintage FR-66S Tonearm on TWAcustic AC-2 Belt-Drive Turntable Listen for the cicadas chirping in the garden. An Australian summer indicator...😘 SIGNET TK-7LCa VINTAGE MM CARTRIDGE
Mounted in Vintage FR-66S Tonearm on TWAcustic AC-2 Belt-Drive Turntable Listen for something MORE frightening..... The 'ruler of the house' saying "enough is enough"....turn it off!!! I transcended my 'Loud Listening Timeframe'...🥺 |
Thank you Harold and Frogman for your understanding and kind words....😍
And thank you again Frogman for such a detailed and instructive analysis of the Signet and Decca and your kind words about my System.
Coming from you....it means a great deal to me 🤗
I hope it's instructive for others.....that most of these listening sessions and detailed analyses and impressions, are done with cartridges which are NOT LOMCs?
The vast majority of my collected cartridges comprises 2nd hand (or NOS) vintage MMs mostly over 35 years old bought for $90-$1000 (the average would be $500).
The supposed 'superiority' of the $10,000-$20,000 uber MCs which are establishing a 'Market-for Themselves' is a myth.
You will find exactly the same differences and nuances between them as you are hearing with the 'lowly' MMs.
I will eventually do a 'mad' comparison between my cheapest NOS ($110) MM and my most expensive ($10,000) LOMC.
Stick around......🤪
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And now for something completely different......🎸 The Empire 4000D/III Gold was one of the first vintage MM cartridges I acquired after reading about it in Raul's MM Thread here on A'Gon. It was cheap (even though NOS) and it opened my eyes (and ears) to the 'real' sound of music I had been missing since my last MMs 20 years previously. The 4000D/III was high-compliance with a miniature nude stylus on a tapered gold-anodised aluminium cantilever. It had a wide frequency range of 5-50K Hertz making it suitable for 4-Channel. The Fidelity Research FR-6SE on the other hand was far lower in compliance, consistent with the Company's obvious aim to make it compatible with their high-mass Tonearms like the FR-64S and FR-66S. The FR-6SE, with its Elliptical Stylus, sounds unlike most other cartridges you will hear being warm, full-bodied and robust. No brittleness or high-end annoyance in sight 😎 EMPIRE 4000D/III GOLD MM CartridgeMounted in DV-507/II ToneArm on solid Bronze ArmPod surrounding Vintage Victor TT-101 DD Turntable. FIDELITY RESEARCH FR-6SE MM CartridgeMounted in FR-64S (Silver-Wired) ToneArm on solid Bronze ArmPod surrounding Vintage Victor TT-101 DD Turntable. |
Because the vintage FR-7f was heard previously on Ketty Lester's 'Love Letters'.....I thought we needed to hear it further 🤗 And against my 'Mainstay' MM reference..... FIDELITY RESEARCH FR-7f LOMC CartridgeMounted in Vintage FR-66S ToneArm on TW Acustic Raven AC-2 Belt-Drive Turntable SIGNET TK-7LCa MM CartridgeMounted in Continuum Audio Copperhead ToneArm on TW Acustic AC-2 Belt-Drive Turntable |
Mea Culpa Frogman..... I shouldn't have editorialised so much in the prologue...🥺 And you're right about the similarities of both cartridges.....that's why I paired them. You're also astute in picking the slight 'edge' that the Empire has over the FR-6SE. The Empire is a very under-rated cartridge IMO with not many audiophiles sampling it because:- - It's MM
- It's high-compliance
- It's cheap on the 'used' market
The Fidelity Research MMs need high-mass, high-quality arms to show their best. The FR-6SE's 'cousins'....the FR-5 and FR-5E are even warmer and 'murkier' making them too much for even a SS amplification system (unless your speakers and room are also too 'bright'). But you've brought up a serious point about synergy and 'system matching'...... There are many cartridges which will match a particular 'system' more than others will. It should not be a blanket statement about the 'quality' of such cartridges. That's why it's so advantageous to sample a wide range of cartridges in your particular system to find those that 'illuminate'....🎇🎼 With vintage MMs.....that task is easy and 'fun' whilst if you attempt that exercise with current MCs......you need a friendly 'banker' 🤯 Harold.....both cartridges loaded at 60K Ohms with no added Capacitance. |
Over the years, I’ve read many Reviewers and Audiophiles describing the ’speed’ and ’attack’ of MC Cartridges as a distinction to MMs. I have to admit that I don’t hear this......not that I’m denying others can 🤔 Perhaps you can hear something in this comparison between the JMAS-MIT 1 LOMC and the classic vintage SHURE V15/III MM...? But this Shure V15/III is fitted with a Jico SAS Stylus which really improves what is a pretty decent cartridge. Viva Ginger Baker.....🥁 JMAS-MIT 1 LOMC CartridgeMounted in Vintage SAEC WE-8000/ST ToneArm on solid Bronze ArmPod surrounding Vintage Victor TT-101 DD Turntable SHURE V15/III MM Cartridge with SAS StylusMounted in DV-507/II ToneArm on solid Bronze ArmPod surrounding Vintage Victor TT-101 DD Turntable |
Isn’t it amazing......
My ‘aural’memory is so bad that only when I flip back and forwards between both videos is what you say, so obvious.....🙉
It’s really night and day.....
My only concern is with your ‘brightness’ comment on the MIT1......
In my room, the cymbals have just the right degree of ‘shimmer’ and ‘transparency’ without undue emphasis.
Perhaps because the bass (which is REALLY deep) does not have the correct ‘heft’ in the video....it ‘slants’ the ‘balance’....?
I would still love to hear your thoughts on the Signet/FR comparison Frogman.
Thanks......
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PS
The album is Bande Originale du Film de Fernando E. Solanas 'SUR'
composed and interpreted by Astor Piazzolla.
I bought it without the cover.......
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Many audiophiles have been using the Denon DL-103R LOMC cartridge (and variations of it) for decades and some serious High-End users still have a 'soft-spot' for it in their Systems. For $300-$400 it would seem like a bargain to sample the MC sound...? Let's see how it sounds against a vintage MM cartridge like the Fidelity Research FR-6SE which can be had on the 'used' market for much less than the Denon.... DENON DL-103R LOMC CartridgeMounted in Vintage FR-66S Tonearm on TW Acustic AC-2 Belt-Drive Turntable FIDELITY RESEARCH FR-6SE MM CartridgeMounted in Vintage FR-66S Tonearm on TW Acustic AC-2 Belt-Drive Turntable |
Thank you Invictus and Harold for your kind words 😎
You're right Harold......
WRITING about the 'sound' of different cartridges is such a subjective exercise and ultimately proves nothing to anyone......
I wanted to 'objectify' this process (if possible via the YouTube limitations) by allowing for 'real-time' comparisons of cartridges on a unified 'real-world' system as heard from the 'listener's seat'.
Most cartridge comparisons on YouTube take the phono-feed directly to a DAC or USB feed which 'digitises' the analogue signal and removes the entire 'playing system' from the equation.
You thus don't get to hear Phono-Stage, Preamp. Amps, Cables, Speakers nor ROOM effects in those videos.
With my videos.....what you hear is what you get.....except in reality I get to hear it in far better resolution, detail and quality 👅
I would not be so cavalier as to 'wipe out' MC Cartridges based on my experiences.
I have bought (and kept) dozens of LOMCs over the years and still enjoy many of them alongside my favourite MMs.
The ones you will hear here (except for the Denon) have a place in any decent system IMO.
No....the principle reason I have campaigned against the 'supposed' superiority of MC Cartridges is that there is no 'inherent' superiority of one form of cartridge over another in my experience.
So when some 'boutique' garage-based two-man businesses produce their 'hand-made' (because MC cartridges HAVE to be) latest exotica for $10,000, $15,000.....$20,000 🤯
I am outraged......
Those cartridges simply do not necessarily sound any better than cheap MM models....especially those designed and manufactured in the 70s and 80s (The Golden Age of Analogue).
There will inevitably be a legion of well-heeled audiophiles who can afford the best and 'expect' that the prices they pay will be reflected in the 'sounds' that they hear!
Without 'objective' assessments able to be agreed upon......the 'street-cred' they have with their audiophile buddies by dropping the names Atlas, Colibri, Koetsu, Miyajima, ZYX et al is all they really need 🤗
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In line with the preceding statement......I promised earlier, to post a comparison between my most expensive LOMC Cartridge and my cheapest MM. The Acoustical Systems Palladian LOMC Cartridge is beautifully designed and made and costs $10,000. This exercise is not intended to embarrass or shame the Palladian as I don't regret buying it and will continue to listen to it. I have compared it to the Lyra Atlas, the ZYX UNIverse and the Dynavector XV-1s in my system and prefer it. The JVC 4MD-20X cost me $110 a few months ago for a NOS example, and was a lower-cost model than the 4MD-1X which is somewhat better. As I discovered via feedback from Frogman......my aural memory for detail is not good as I tend to just listen 'for enjoyment'...... In other words.....I can enjoy many different cartridge presentations without consciously separating out the detailed differences. To compare any of these videos here.....I urge you to listen on a computer (rather than a phone or tablet) and open up two windows (or three if there are three cartridges). By switching between videos of the two cartridges (at the click of a button).... 'in real time' .....you will hear the differences magnified. ACOUSTICAL SYSTEMS PALLADIAN LOMC CartridgeMounted in SAEC WE-8000/ST ToneArm on solid Bronze ArmPod surrounding Vintage Victor TT-101 DD Turntable JVC 4MD-20X Vintage MM Cartridge Mounted in DV-507/II ToneArm on solid Bronze ArmPod surrounding Vintage Victor TT-101 DD Turntable |
Perfect 'score' once again Frogman....👍
I agree 100% with all that you say (and hear)......
Of course.....there are some who would shrug their shoulders UNLESS the lowly 4MD-20X actually BETTERED the $10,000 Palladian...🤯
Life is not quite like that........
I merely wanted to reassure those who are on a tight budget vis-a-vis cartridges.....that cartridge designers NEVER set out to produce a 'poor' sounding cartridge.
They are merely constrained to do their best within strict budget constraints and this example may be the 'widest' difference you may hear between the 'Uber' cartridges and the 'Budget' ones.....
You will hear with coming MM comparisons against the Palladian......that competition can get a whole lot closer....🤗
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I have been buying vintage cartridges (of all types) for over 10 years.... Not because I don’t like the prices of NEW ones....but because I have found the ’sound’ of cartridges made in ’The Golden Age of Analogue’ (70s to 90s) to be superior to ’modern’ ones. Most Reviewers will have you believe that there have been advances (both in materials and technology) over the last 40 years but that is not true for cartridges IMO......nor for Tonearms or Turntables for that matter. All the serious ’advanced’ styli profiles were developed decades ago and utilised consistently in MM designs as well as MCs. All the cantilever materials such as diamond, sapphire, ruby, boron, carbon-fibre were also invented and used in the ’Golden Age’. But the ’Golden Age’ had access to materials and technologies that are no longer available...... Beryllium cantilevers anyone.....? Despite what some designers might tell you about the physical properties of boron that make it the ’best’ material for cantilevers......the vast majority of my favourite cartridges have ’beryllium’ cantilevers which are no longer available. Hollow-tube aluminium....? tapered tube.....? carbon-fibre/beryllium composites.....? None of these is commercially available today...... If so many advances have been made over the last 40 years......it stands to reason that cartridges made today would ’wipe the floor’ with vintage models......? The following ’Shoot-Out’ is between the top-of-the-line Audio Technica AT150ANV (made in ’Limited Edition’ a few years ago) and the 35 year old top-of-the-line Audio Technica AT180ML/OCC. The AT150ANV famously beat out 8 other cartridges (including the $9000 Ortofon Anna LOMC) in a ’blind’ listening test conducted by Michael Fremer. VINTAGE AUDIO TECHNICA AT-180ML/OCC MM CartridgeMounted in DV-507/II ToneArm on solid Bronze ArmPod surrounding Vintage Victor TT-101 DD Turntable MODERN AUDIO TECHNICA AT-150ANV MM Cartridge
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You DID notice how the 2M Black was handily outvoted by the 150ANV in Fremer’s ‘blind’ listening test......?🧐
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Quite believable Invictus.....
I’m not the greatest fan of the AT sound (except in their US Signet guise)....agreeing that their midrange is typically lacking in your well-described “illumination and technicolor” 👍
This particular comparison is strictly for identical ‘model’ cartridges by the same manufacturer....from different eras.....
I think they’re pretty similar in frequency response....but what you can’t discern in the YouTube ‘sound’ is the slightly greater ‘magic’ in the 180ML..... |
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Thanks Frogman....and HAPPY NEW YEAR 🎉 to you and those who are 'listening to my cartridges' 🧐 Very interesting analysis once again and you're right.....it IS interesting how differently we 'hear' or 'react' to certain qualities in recorded sound. I for one....can't hear the differences you have highlighted between the two cartridges....🤔 To me....they sound almost identical !! I agree that this Leonard Cohen live recording sounds wonderful but I can't discover on what machines it was recorded....other than Bob Ludwig did the Mastering. As it was first released on CD and DVD, it's a safe bet that it was digitally recorded but it sure ranks in my books as the 'warmest' digital recording I've yet heard. So much so....that when I heard it on my audio buddy's all-tube system in Munich 2017.....it was 'unlistenable'....😱 I felt guilty as he had bought the album on my recommendation....🤬 |
I was loading both cartridges at approx. 33K Ohms with zero added Capacitance.....
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Thanks Jeff...😃
I’ve heard nothing but good reports about the SPU A95 and it’s high on my list of ’to try’ cartridges......
I think the TK7SU sounded pretty good on one of my comparisons.....
I hope you heard it?
Would welcome some feedback or thoughts from you on any others of these cartridge comparisons....👍
Kind Regards
Henry
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Love it Frogman.......👌
I could read your descriptions all day long.....🗣
I’m off to buy some more cartridges to keep your contributions coming..
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For over 10 years I've been a big fan of the Japanese Victor Company and their design engineering 'know-how' in the 'Golden Age' of analogue. It started when I bought one of their vintage TT-81 DD Turntables followed by their top-of-the-line TT-101 Motor Unit shortly afterwards. I now have probably a dozen of their cartridges ( THE BEST) and every product of their's that I've tried has been worthy. For over two years I have been looking for a good example of their X-1 MM Cartridge with its original stylus/cantilever assembly and finally found one ( with a bonus SPARE replacement stylus). I couldn't believe my luck when just a few weeks ago....an original Victor X-1II Cartridge came up for auction and when I received it....its condition was almost MINT!I now had the Victor TOP THREE- X-1, X-1II and X-1IIE....Frogman seemed to be impressed with the sound of the Victors he heard in my previous comparisons.....and he wondered which was the best of the three...? Perhaps he can now tell us.....? 🤗 VICTOR X-1 MM CartridgeMounted in DV-507/II ToneArm on solid Bronze ArmPod surrounding Vintage Victor TT-101 DD Turntable VICTOR X-1II MM CartridgeMounted in DV-507/II ToneArm on solid Bronze ArmPod surrounding Vintage Victor TT-101 DD Turntable VICTOR X-1IIE MM CartridgeMounted in DV-507/II ToneArm on solid Bronze ArmPod surrounding Vintage Victor TT-101 DD Turntable |
Victor X-1 and X-1II have Beryllium/Shibata whilst X-1IIE has Titanium hollow pipe cantilever and nude Elliptical stylus. |
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Interesting Schubert....
Maybe it's System Synergy as Frogman says.....?
Do you have Tube or SS amplification?
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But it lacked something in the mid range, detail and nuances. I agree Harold..... |
Interesting comment @justmetoo......
I hear it more like @sdrsdrsdr does, with the Glanz sounding a class above....🤗 |
I had hoped that Frogman would have divulged his analysis on the previous test......🤗 Let's try a different approach..... If the $10,000 AS Palladian LOMC Cartridge is taken as the 'Benchmark' (in my system).....how close can cheaper cartridges get to it...? The Palladian is a beautifully built modern Meg-Buck LOMC cartridge that owes much to the Classic Vintage Fidelity Research FR-7 Series of cartridges from 35 years ago. Instead of the current 'fad' for Boron cantilevers.... the Palladian utilises an aluminium one with a nude Fine-Line stylus in a 'bush-hammered' Titanium body. The Vintage Signet TK-7LCa MM Cartridge utilises a Beryllium cantilever with a nude Line Contact stylus. The Signet can be had for approx. $600-$800 NOS on Ebay (if one is patient enough). Here you can decide if $9,200 price differential is worth it....🤔 AS PALLADIAN LOMC CartridgeMounted in Vintage SAEC WE-8000/ST ToneArm on solid Bronze ArmPod surrounding Vintage Victor TT-101 DD Turntable. VINTAGE SIGNET TK-7LCa MM CartridgeMounted in DV-507/II ToneArm on solid Bronze ArmPod surrounding Vintage Victor TT-101 DD Turntable. |
It's the rightly famous RCA Victor release of "The Royal Ballet" Gala Performances conducted by Ernest Ansermet. No music lover should be without a copy.... HERE |
Looking forward to them Frogman....😎
Regards
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Good Golly Frogman...... I told you I didn't regret purchasing the Palladian.....😁 Perhaps I've been wrong all these years in thinking that the very best vintage MM cartridges of yesteryear can play on the same field as the best modern MCs......? I'm determined though.....to use your ears (if you don't mind).....to tell me exactly which of my MM cartridges come closest to possessing the abilities of the Palladian in one-on-one 'Shoot-Outs'. Before I do that though.....I'd like your opinion of how a vintage LOMC like the JMAS MIT-1 compares to the Palladian. I just bought a wonderful piano recording of the 'Beethoven Appasionata' which was described by the Seller on Discogs as 'Very Good+' condition. As you will hear...the disc has been 'churned' by some scalpel-like stylus and is going back to whence it came....🤬 AS PALLADIAN LOMC CartridgeMounted in Vintage SAEC WE-8000/ST ToneArm on solid Bronze ArmPod surrounding Vintage Victor DD Turntable JMAS MIT-1 LOMC CartridgeMounted in Vintage SAEC WE-8000/ST ToneArm on solid Bronze ArmPod surrounding Vintage Victor DD Turntable |
Judging from the ’views’.........there is quiet a bit of interest in the vintage Victor MM cartridges (and the London Decca Reference 😎). The X-1 range of Victors are almost ’unobtanium’ and replacement styli are generally unavailable or unsatisfactory. The Z1 Victors however are plentiful on the used market and are ’dirt’ cheap. Jico makes a range of replacement styli for them with the SAS or Neo-SAS being the best (if they ever come into production again). The Z1/SAS is a real challenger for the X-1.....😃 AS PALLADIAN LOMC CartridgeMounted in Vintage SAEC WE-8000/ST ToneArm on solid Bronze ArmPod surrounding Vintage Victor TT-101 Turntable VICTOR Z1/SAS Vintage MM CartridgeMounted in Vintage SAEC WE-8000/ST ToneArm on solid Bronze ArmPod surrounding Vintage Victor TT-101 Turntable |
I hear something similar to you Noromance......
This could be interesting....🧐
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Although on listening to both again......I don’t really know 🤔
The sound on my iPad is not quite what I hear ‘live’....?
Will be interesting to see what Frogman thinks......
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Your ears need to be insured for millions 💰Frogman....
Whilst I was recording the Victor Z1/SAS....I could clearly hear in my room....the "extra midrange juice of the Victor" that you picked up.
After recording it.....I realised that I had left the loading of the MM cartridge at 40K Ohms instead of the 60K Ohms that the Victors like...🥴
On playback however....through my iPad.....I heard it like Noromance did, with a richness that seemed to have an advantage over the Palladian so I uploaded it like that.....
I think we need to get ourselves ears like Frogman, Noromance......or at least try to get the same Stax/tube set....👅
It'll be interesting to see what you hear through your digital rig Noromance?
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It's encouraging to hear these differing points of view...and I thank you all.....🤗
The comments of Michelle and @noromance are particularly gratifying because, before recording this 'Shootout', I had been happily listening to the Victor Z1/SAS and considered it one of the better MMs in my collection.
After the rather negative comments from @frogman and @dover for my Victor X1/II however......I began to doubt my judgement and feared that the Z1/SAS might project some of the same 'house' sound as its more glorified 'brother' 🥴
What a worthwhile 'shootout' this has turned out to be.....👍
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I know what you mean.....
Whenever I hear the Mr Whippy van come down the street playing Greensleeves, I know it’s ‘live’......
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Yes Chak,
Very different technology with the boron cantilever needing a load of epoxy....whilst the hollow beryllium is more sophisticated.
What do you think of the sound...?
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Our quest to find a MM cartridge as close as possible to a current $10,000 Uber LOMC cartridge continues. Here is a new acquisition.... GLANZ 610LXA NOS vintage Moving Flux cartridge for which there exists precious little information. It has a nude line-contact (or Shibata) stylus pressure-fitted into a BERYLLIUM HOLLOW-TUBE CANTILEVERTechnology that no current manufacturer can match or supply...🤗 AS PALLADIAN LOMC CARTRIDGEThis is the $10,000 current LOMC cartridge that Frogman has 'anointed' as 'The Benchmark' in my system (correct me if I'm wrong Frogman 🤔) GLANZ 610LX |
But you can’t pressure-fit a stylus to boron....
You must use glue.
I meant.....what do you think of the sound in my video?
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