Headphones--The Grado sound in a closed design?

I also like the Grados, but dont want an open backed phone.

Audio Technica has been recommended for a more reasonable price, but I have not yet compared my Grados or Sennheisers with Audio Technicas.

I dont want to disturb my family if they are sleeping, the passenger next to me if I am traveling and I dont want anyone in the gym knowing what music I like.

What is the benefit of open headphones?

Yes, I have noticed the planar headphones and would love to give them a try too.

But to me, one of the main benefits of headphones should be privacy.

For in ear, I have tried expensive Etymotics, expensive Shures, cheaper Shures and I have just ordered a pair of Sennheisers.

But they all sound claustrophic to me, with an annoying, "orchestra inside my head" lack of imaging, not to mention generally uncomfortable.

For other closed phones, apparently Sony makes a decent pair for not too much $$$.

As posted in another thread on closed headphones, I noticed the Phiaton MS 400s are well reviewed in the latest Stereophile survey.

Having just tried them, they do leak a bit of sound, but are detailed, revealing and efficient for use with a laptop or a portable device.