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Has to be said

Hi,
i been reading most sites and the little arguments about this and that about making audio in this case be more pleasent ot better to any individual. and have to say upfront that if "you" believe its better to you than it is in fact true to you and you only. we are just reletive respondants to each other and therefore nature and the universe.
many of the subjects that come up as to improving ones audio system tend to go into little details that may or may not have "real" affects on most of us. and also be provable with phsics,math,medical studies etc.many musicians and many humans can distinguish alot of these aspects. and they are ALL quantifiable and measureable very easilly. from 1800 till today FFT and resonance,sound perfiliration has been well adjustable from the totally acoustic pipe organs to the music halls 100s of years ago with out electronic fixes, and all these new snake oil gagets on the market. many are always big commenters here on this site.
Its totally true you can "fix" and sound wave with free rocks,walls,chambers, etc. so go for it at a cost of zero dollars. and adbandon all these marketing hacks.
Ive been well into sound,RF,Radioation, Electron manulipation, Audio,phsics etc all my life and all my relatives aslso . I dont need to justify my opinions yet am dignified by holding 8 international patents,2 doctrets and my dad with similar fields.
one crazy obvious thing no one even bothers to mention is the way off standard of 440hz shifted 8hz the earths standard resonance. while all the 1000s of years 432hz was based on real natural happenings before electronics. dont you all care everything you listen to is 8hz off tune and therefore wrong, but you will bicker about a few microvolts noise from an ocslittating wire with parallell wire  hanging off a standoff. itf too funny to me.
yes all digital except one source tunes their DAC math to 435hz to be more correct to Verdi and other great composers.
ive got tuning forks over the audio and above spectrum and tune my panios violins etc to them 432 hz
and need to say again. yes please do everything Analoge
to correct your sound system, its been done in churches,music halls,the great pyrmids, with instruments themselves.
but do not chase the rabbit down the money hole to fix apparent physhoacoustics in your listening area.

ps the spelling and writing is horrid cause ive got a brain injury2 years ago and under go EEG,ehthesographs and neuro studies constantly. where various frequency sweeps are put thru me and studied by the medical and commercial fields.
Im off for now to play my bass thru 50000watts total. and resonate the neighborhood at 8.2 HZ....

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if you really want to get into discussions of how electronic waves propagate in circuits, you need to look into the work of Dr. Ivan Ndip at Fraunhofer IZM in Berlin. fascinating stuff. those waves don’t confine themselves to the wires or circuit traces on a board or wiring harness.

Very interesting stuff...

I use shungite stones+copper tape on one side, in my audio experiments, is it possible that the stones+copper affected the signals trough some sort of passive filtering decreasing the noise floor trough interaction with the electronic waves ? I ask to you because the effect is stunningly good, cheap and I had no explanation to date...It is my idea and it gives my system a boost in all counts... I use that on the central breaker panel, interconnect even on top of the capacitors of my Schumann Generators etc....Thanks for your time...
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Thanks for the info about the GNU OCTAVE ...

I am pleased to read about... My best...
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Atdavid...

For sure I know all that controversies about this 432 Hz debate...But I am very conscious also about the real impact on the body of frequencies choosen sounds...

How about this scientific reference to establish some balance with this subject and not throwing the baby with the bathwaters(sometimes dirty waters and I am conscious about your careful point and the debate about tuning).

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/327439522_Effect_of_528_Hz_Music_on_the_Endocrine_System_an...

and this one is relevant to our last discussion also and also this one...

Inaudible High-Frequency Sounds Affect Brain Activity: Hypersonic Effect

https://www.physiology.org/doi/pdf/10.1152/jn.2000.83.6.3548
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Thanks for this news about the EVO 432....And for Melody Gardot example...

I regret my lack of money tough for this one EVO...

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Interesting post...

Thanks...

I know for sure that sound touch us immediately and objectively, our inconscious is way more refine in perception than our conscious mind, then it makes sense for me to play modern tune on a prehistoric instrument designed by a caveman with the same ears than us....


By the way I like Werner Herzog intuitive mind very much...
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Interesting toughts...I think you are right on the spot for natural sound healing effect...432 hz tuned instrument also I guess...And I am sure that the effect is very physical... Soul and body are one...

The polluting noise environment is detrimental and unbeknownst to many, not only loud noises or background noises, but bad choices for tuning like the 440 hz or exposition to too much artificial sounds...

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For example when you are not only in physical pain, but in an acute spiritual or psychological pain, nevermind the names, you dont feel light and you dont enjoy your normal musical listening at all...You are not able to play anymore...

Then at these times I try some music, designed to heal, there are many that suit particular needs and spiritual moods... With success...

An example of some music I enjoy for my own therapeutic use... This will not suit everybody, it is just an example of some kind of music I dont listen to in normal times of my life, but I cannot listen to much to it when I need it :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uho4EPuJVtY

This music for example calm my soul...


And remind yourself that there is a difference between relaxing music only and music with therapeutic effect first... The frontier is not clear cut for sure, but when you are in pain, you feel the difference in your bones...

For relaxation only I listen to natural sounds, wind chimes, or very simple piano melody...


Most of the days I am strong and in health, it seems so to me and others tough :) and I listen to Shostakovitch piano preludes, Scriabin or some Sun Ra free jazz marvels or Bach or Persian or Indian favorites.... All music i cannot even touch when i am in pain....But these happy days are more numerous because I am lucky in life thanks God...


My best to all


I cannot resist to say these words that had no relation to my post :)

God exist thanks to the music of Bach that prove it; and man can be a god also, a lesser one for sure, but a god tough, thanks to the Scriabin music that proves the fact...( choose a Sofronitsky interpretation for the Scriabin proof)


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One thing I know for sure, it is better to listen to some musical sound than takes a pill...:)

I am curious about the OP experience with sound....


Sometimes ago I listen only music or sound that suit my conscious taste...But for about a year now I observe exposing myself to certain sound ( perhaps better say frequencies) had certain negative or positive effect, or reinforcing effect...It is feed back and placebo also, but more than that, there is really an objective side effect to the effect of sound from the cellular to the conscious level...I am not a scientist, but I have my experience...And there is much out there for those who want to read...

For sure these experiments with sound healing are more convincing and easy to make for someone that is already in pain, hurted, or very sensible ( I am), otherwise collective blind test with corticoid production measurement protocols for example are mandatory for the research... 

like this one:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/327439522_Effect_of_528_Hz_Music_on_the_Endocrine_System_an...


My best to all...
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But Geoff you cannot tune for yourself the violin of the violinist that plays some tune on your system...It is my point...I am interested in this social convention of tuning the fork and his effect on us listening to that in our perfectly tuned, otherwise, very refined tweaked audio system, and like you already know it is the point that the OP wanted to discuss...( mine audio system is tuned tough and yours also I think)… :)
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I am very interested by the power of sounds to heal....I begin to self experiment with sounds effect on myself about a year ago, modifying consciously my listening habits...This is the reason why the Op remark about tuning seems to me very important...It is  not a too much known fact in the general population this tuning problem around the tuning fork...But it is a way more important problem that what seems to meet the eyes...


In a way unbeknownst to us, the frequencies we lives in affect us in some direction that we had choosen or not...Music is a question of moods and personal taste only up to a point...Metaphorically speaking, but science someday will meet poetry, it is frequencies, these we created and entertained and those others we do not, that pilot our souls ...

Thanks to the OP for proposing this important tuning problem...And he is right, all tweaks or room controls etc will not correct this basic social, cultural, fact affecting not only music but souls...
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