I received my ANTICABLES Level 3 Reference Series Power Cord on Thursday (1/12) and put it on my Audiodhrama Cable Cooker for three days and then put it into my second system on my Allnic T-1500 (300B) Integrated amp, also had it plugged into my CPT-1800.
I do find the Level 3 power cord to be a very good value and it performs very well. My Cerious Technologies Graphene power cables and my CPT-300 also perform very well.
I would be very hard pressed to pick one of the above mentioned power cords over another. I can’t say that I can hear a difference of one power cord over the other, at least not at this particular time.
One advantage of the CPT-300 is that it has the ability to clean crud from your AC current which might be an advantage depending on the quality of AC. |
knghifi, I look forward to reading more regarding the modification and the advantages :-)!
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@knghifi,
Thanks for the update! ;-)
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I recently received two slightly different power cords. Each one is made with different Furutech wire (sounds like the wire knghifi describes). The end connectors are High Quality Carbon Fiber Rhodium Plated US Power Plug HIFI IEC Connectors (see below). These power cords IMO are extremely good and surprised me in a very, VERY, ... positive way. Problem is I think the current supply of Furutech wire in the USA might be hard to come by. 5' power cord for less than $250, DIY. http://www.ebay.com/itm/High-Quality-Carbon-Fiber-Rhodium-Plated-US-Supply-Power-Plug-HIFI-IEC-Conne... |
Mark, that's great news!
I hope to beta test one...
Best regards
Lak
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@sruffle,
The CPT 1200 and 1800 are awesome and have a heck of a lot of bang for the buck, definitely something to consider.
Your Cerious Technologies Graphene power cords are very good at a low asking price, and are also big band for the buck. In my opinion you don't realize how good of a power cord you have due to lack of spending a fortune trying other power cords...no offense meant.
PM me if you want more detailed information.
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@snoopy72,
I'm using a seven foot power cord with my 1800.
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@calloway, UPS just this minute delivered a Deep Core beta unit to me.
L=8" x W=8" H= 4".
Weight 6 1/2 pounds.
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I own both, the Equi = Core 1800 and the Denali D2000.
The problem is they are in two different systems.
They are both very good.
I'll have to find some time to move the Denali into my second system (because there is more room) and do a comparison. |
Fast version of the Equi = Core 1800 vs. Denali D2000
Main equipment used in the audition: Allnic T-1500 Integrated 300B Amp, Sonic Frontiers SFT-1 Transport, Yamamoto DA Converter YDA-01, Montana EXP Speakers
My Transport and Dac were the only items plugged into the two power conditioners.
I want to emphasize that both power conditioner are very good, that's why I own both of them.
In my second system (seen above) The Shunyata Denali D2000 was a tad better at giving me more refined micro details and fuller bass, mids, and highs. I want to point out that there is a difference in the price of these two units including different technology that each one uses. One must ask themselves is it worth spending more money for a tad more resolution and detail? It's a personal choice!
I’ve never noticed any improvement using my amp and/or Integrated amp with any power conditioner.
I hope this helps and I hope I didn’t step on anyone's toes.
I also look forward to auditioning the Deep Core Alpha! |
Calloway, I agree. Mileage may vary with power conditioner.
Some guys try them and hear no difference and/or say the power conditioner has a negative effect on their music.
One doesn't know until you try it in your system.
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T_ramey, yes the more expensive Furutech receptacles, and especially the Furutech Nano 14 gauge (or larger if needed) wire will make a significant improvement.
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I look forward to receiving the Deep Core and ISO Pucks. |
@aniwolfe my understanding is the ISO Pucks could be used under any of the products (1200, 1800, 300, etc), probably any component you wish. Tender feet work also as other brands probably would. , http://herbiesaudiolab.net/products.htm |
Mark, I hope you will take it easy and slow down. Feel better and get healthy. |
I'm still patiently waiting to beta-test Deep Core... |
UPS was unkind to the D.C., and I'm waiting for a replacement :-(
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Those are all really good questions, I wish I could answer a few of them however when I returned the beta Deep Core unit because it arrived damaged (UPS), I never had an opportunity to audition it. I'm still waiting for another unit to beta test.
I do know that the Deep Core can be used with the 1200, 1800, or directly connected to one or two of your components.
As was mentioned Mark will have all the correct answers.
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Still waiting for the return of the replacement Deep Core also.
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Mark, a belated Happy Birthday wish to you ;-)
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@t_ramey, I do not use my 300 to power my 1800.
I might be wrong and if I am I want someone to correct my next statement.
It seems to me that the 300 power cord (including the 50 and 150) would limit the full potential of the 1200 / 1800.
I find that a good heavy duty power cord works well, something made for a high current amp or power conditioner.
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@t_ramey, When I received my 1800, I took the 300 out of my two channel system and moved it to a different room where I use the 300 with a power strip and plug my flat screen TV and Oppo BDP-105 into it.
I did not find an advantage when I tried the 300 out of the 1800 to a component.
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Hello grannyring,
I'll post this here also in case others are looking for similar information.
When I received my CPT-300 I did not think that it sounded bright or forward.
I’d say give it 25 hours of break-in time and see how it sounds then.
Out of the box, I did hear more details with in the music, but no brightness.
Something else to consider as an alternative if the break-in doesn’t help is run your unit to a power strip and then run your favorite power cord from the power strip to the component (s).
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grannyring, thanks for the update.
I wonder what the 150 (etc) would sound like with Blue (Furutech) power cords attached?
I thought about it, however, decieded not to mess with it.
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Doesn't surprise me grannyring! Espically after reading some of your other threads and having seen what you did with the Yamamoto Dac ;-)!
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@tommylion, I believe the Bybee iQSE will fit inside the 300. Please let us know if you hear any improvement. |
Does a nylon bolt work better than a brass bolt?
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grannyring, thanks for the explanation and pictures. Looks like excellent workmanship as usual!
Please keep us posted on the progress and break in sound! |
Hum...
Just think what you could do with a Equi=Core 1800 mod...;-)!
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@yoby, still patiently waiting...seems like it's beem forever... :-(
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Please keep us posted tommylion.
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@grannyring, I think thats an excellent idea!
I like to know what percentage of improvement id due to your modifications vs the Furutech cable.
I trust your ears... |
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grannyring, I just built a 2' Blue power cord (Furutech Nano-Ag-Au, 12 gauge with the imported Copper Rhodium Plated US AC Power Plug Carbon Fiber Connector Adapters) that is powering my Hemisphere. I'm hearing some nice improvements in tone and timbre. the power cord isn't long enough to use with my CPT 1800. |
Can't ask for better costomer service than that!
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kedoades, the upper end of Purist Audio power cords are very good. The CPT power cords are a different creature because now you are using balanced power (the box) which cleans the gunk from the AC and allows you to hear more details.
I believe that you would have to demo them side by side to determine which you like better. As far as musical ability and dollars spent, I think the CPT would be the winner.
If you don't have any power conditioning in your system you might want to keep the power cords you currently are using and purchase a 1200 or 1800 which most likely could be used with your entire system.
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grannyring, good idea, please keep us posted on progress and sound quality.
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Thanks for the update grannyring. |
I have not heard a word about the Deep Core, other than being told a half dozen times it will ship to me tomorrow. Does it still exist or is it a figment of our imagination?
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The 1800 should sound good as soon as implemented into your system.
I'd say 300 to 500 hours for complete break-in, 100 hours should basically let you know what its capible of. Sometimes that is dependent upon the outlets built into the unit.
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@audioman58
I need some tutoring regarding: "My question if I put in the power cord with a transformer built in then plug into the 1800".
What is a power cord with a built-in transformer?
Is there a website with a picture so I can understand this concept?
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@audioman58,
Sorry, I did not initially understand your question, I guess I was not thinking clearly this morning!
I tried my CPT-300 power cord feeding my 1800 and in my opinion, I did not hear any improvement. It did not matter if the CPT-300 fed my 1800 or if the CPT-300 came out of the 1800 going to a component, in my opinion, I did not hear any improvement either way.
I would recommend using any larger (12 gauge or larger) power cord of your choice to feed the 1800. Also from your 1800 to other components use a power cord made for an amp or front-end components.
Feel free to message me if you want my recommendations on power cords.
I do like the CPT-300 from the wall directly to a component and or a power strip.
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@a25105,
These units don’t have fuses, they have reset buttons.
Push Reset Button Circuit Breaker Thermal Overload Protector
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@calloway
I think it must be a figment of our imagination!
But...I'm still patiently waiting... |
IMO: Alpha testing took place the first week of May 2017.
Alpha Tests Beta Tests Test Goals Evaluate the quality of the product and ensure Beta readiness. These tests focus on finding bugs, and answer the question: Does the product work? Evaluate customer satisfaction and ensure release readiness. These tests take users on a guided tour of the product to answer the question: Do customers like the product? When they happen After initial QA testing but before Beta Testing, in the stage of the development process when the product is 60%-80% complete (it’s stable enough for technical users, but not yet feature complete). After Alpha Testing but before Field Testing, in the stage of the development process when the product is 80%-90% complete (it’s stable enough for mainstream users, and mostly feature-complete). Test length Typically 1-2 weeks per test cycle with numerous cycles based on how many issues are discovered and how many new features are released. It’s not uncommon for the total Alpha phase to be 3-5x the length of the following Beta phase. Usually 3-6 weeks per test cycle with only 1-2 cycles. Additional cycles are added if significant new features are introduced or if a core component is changed. Primary stakeholders Engineering, Quality Assurance (QA), and Product Management teams. User Experience (UX), Quality Management, and Product Management teams. Participants (testers) Strangers from a variety of targeted technical environments, who can handle giving technical feedback during the test. Involving employees in this stage of testing (a.k.a. dogfooding) helps improve internal alignment and prepare your teams for live-support after launch. Strangers (not friends and family) from your product’s target market. They’ll provide objective insights on the product experience that are relevant to the product’s success and help you better understand your true customers. What testers should expect A product with plenty of bugs and crashes, as well as some missing documents and features. A near feature-complete product with some bugs, fewer crashes, and mostly complete documentation. How feedback is addressed Most known critical and severe issues are fixed, and some features may change or be added as a result of early feedback. Critical or important issues are fixed, and simple user experience improvements are made before product launch. Future versions of the product are heavily influenced by the results. What they achieve Identification of critical issues that cannot be tested in the lab, and insurance of your Betas by addressing show-stopping bugs that would otherwise cripple those tests. They also improve internal alignment and launch-readiness of customer-facing teams. Improvement of launch success by providing evidence-based recommendations for product improvements and a complete view of your customers’ experience with your product. When are they over? A product is Beta-ready when it meets design criteria, all of its primary features work, and Alpha testers are no longer finding critical or blocking issues. A product is Field-ready when mainstream users from your target market are comfortable with the user interface, and are satisfied with their experiences with the product and its features. What happens next? Beta Testing! Field Testing!
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@t_ramey As far as I know, ozzy and I were beta testers for the Deep Core. There could have been other beta testers that I’m not aware of? lak2,479 posts05-02-2017 3:00pm@calloway, UPS just this minute delivered a Deep Core beta unit to me. L=8" x W=8" H= 4". Weight 6 1/2 pounds. lak2,479 posts04-19-2017 6:41pmI’m still patiently waiting to beta-test Deep Core... lak2,479 posts05-03-2017 1:09pmUPS was unkind to the D.C., and I’m waiting for a replacement :-( lak2,479 posts05-21-2017 3:19pmThose are all really good questions, I wish I could answer a few of them however when I returned the beta Deep Core unit because it arrived damaged (UPS), I never had an opportunity to audition it. I’m still waiting for another unit to beta test. I do know that the Deep Core can be used with the 1200, 1800, or directly connected to one or two of your components. As was mentioned Mark will have all the correct answers. lak2,479 posts05-28-2017 9:00amStill waiting for the return of the replacement Deep Core also. @t_ramsey: I never had an opportunity to test the Deep Core. Although I had it in my hands it arrived damaged and I returned it to Mark (early May 2017 and am still waiting for a replacement. I don’t want to speak for ozzy however as I understand it he had to return his unit also and was not able to audition it. This is all part of and a reason for beta testing. |
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To all my Audiogon friends, acquaintances and readers of this forum:
Patience is a virtue...
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Still patiently waiting...
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