Has anyone tried the Van den Hul Orchid?


I have been using these interconnects on RCA and they compare favorably against the Valhalla at much less cost. Before I commit on an all VDH balanced set, I'd love to hear other opinions on these cables, especially for long lengths. Am also considering Shunyata's Helix and Cardas.
kamil
I've not tried XLR or long lengths, but I've just dropped a 1m RCA Orchid into the system and, immediately, the clarity and separation of voices was remarkable in comparison with my reference IC, an Audience Au24, which I like very much. I use Audience cabling throughout the system (Cary SLI-80, Lector 0.6T CDP, Sonus Faber Grand Piano speakers, Audience Au24 speaker cables, Audience PC on the amp) and had been committed to consistency regarding cables, but the Orchid is turning my head. I'm listening to Renaissance choral music and the Orchid is not only more refined in its separation and spacing of voices, but in finesse too--transients are more delicate, realistic, so the pulsing of voices feels more natural. There is some sibilance which isn't an attractive trait, but it may be the price to pay for this much more definition and sophistication in presentation. I'll write again after I try other music--orchestral and opera. Good luck. I'm sorry, but I'm so mid-fi, I don't know Valhalla, Helix, or Cardas.
I've now listened to orchestral symphonic music and a few opera CDs as well. Last night, I stayed up a couple of extra hours just listening to what the Orchid can do in my main system.

The Orchid was especially good with Beethoven's "Eroica" performed by the Cleveland Symphony, conducted by Dohnanyi. From the first timpani strikes and then throughout the first movement, the Orchid was wonderfully dynamic, speedy, and detailed. And the most pleasing thing of all was it handled string attack transients terrifically, bringout out the pulses of string phrasing as the violin sections quietly "strike" their own notes in response to the energy of the timpani. Only two other cables I've tried captured this exciting effect--the Atlas Titan from Scotland and the van den Hul the Second XLR. Other cables, as good as they are, don't quite reproduce the suddenness of the violin phrasing, those shuddering attack transients and correspondingly sudden silences between phrases. Beethoven's symphony is written as if the violin section was a regiment of light cavalry--quick to strike and even quicker in getaway. The Orchid captures this.

The Orchid is also fabulous with operatic voices, particularly lyric sopranos like Renee Fleming and Anna Netrebko and dark, lyric tenors like Rolando Villazon. While a very few select cables can reproduce the big, fat virtuosic moments of dynamic and treble peaks, the Orchid among them, the cable is also able to render subtly complex pianissimo passages with fine, note to note nuance. I could hear none of the lively transient sounds rounded off or overly smoothed in order to better capture the bigger vocal dynamics--there is no sacrifice of vocal evanescence and pure presence. Again, as I said about the Orchid's performance with choral music, there's an unusual degree of detail, finesse, and refinement here.

In my search for equipment to handle the range of music I listen to, it's been very difficult to find any one piece in any category that can handle energetic symphonies, the beautifully lyric and the powerfully virtuosic operatic arias, and Renaissance choral music full of complex treble harmonies, delicate tones and phrasing. This is the one cable I've auditioned that delivers most completely across the broad spectrum of my listening. In short, the Orchid is aptly named--bold and delicate both. It's now become my reference interconnect.
I've now listened to orchestral symphonic music and a few opera CDs as well. Last night, I stayed up a couple of extra hours just listening to what the Orchid can do in my main system, as my friends Dale and Chris, owners of Eugene Hi-Fi, needed the cables back for a recording session. They've loaned me several pairs of interconnects to audition over the past few weeks and had been urging me to try the Orchid even though I'd thought my cabling "had arrived" already. And I must admit I was even somewhat smug about it, until I dropped The Orchid into my system yesterday and heard how much more air and vocal separation it gave to Le Chapelle Royale's 1986 Harmonia Mundi recording of Josquin Desprez's motets (dir. Phillippe Herreweghe).

The Orchid was especially good with Beethoven's "Eroica" performed by the Cleveland Symphony, conducted by Dohnanyi. From the first timpani strikes and then throughout the first movement, the Orchid was wonderfully dynamic, speedy, and detailed. And the most pleasing thing of all was it handled string attack transients terrifically, bringout out the pulses of string phrasing as the violin sections quietly "strike" their own notes in response to the energy of the timpani. Only two other cables I've tried captured this exciting effect--the Atlas Titan from Scotland and the van den Hul the Second XLR. Other cables, as good as they are, don't quite reproduce the suddenness of the violin phrasing, those shuddering attack transients and correspondingly sudden silences between phrases. Beethoven's symphony is written as if the violin section was a regiment of light cavalry--quick to strike and even quicker in getaway. The Orchid captures this.

The Orchid is also fabulous with operatic voices, particularly lyric sopranos like Renee Fleming and Anna Netrebko and dark, lyric tenors like Rolando Villazon. While a very few select cables can reproduce the big, fat virtuosic moments of dynamic and treble peaks, the Orchid among them, the cable is also able to render subtly complex pianissimo passages with fine, note to note nuance. I could hear none of the lively transient sounds rounded off or overly smoothed in order to better capture the bigger vocal dynamics--there is no sacrifice of vocal evanescence and pure presence. Again, as I said about the Orchid's performance with choral music, there's an unusual degree of detail, finesse, and refinement here.

In my search for equipment to handle the range of music I listen to, it's been very difficult to find any one piece in any category that can handle energetic symphonies, the beautifully lyric and the powerfully virtuosic operatic arias, and Renaissance choral music full of complex treble harmonies, delicate tones and phrasing. This is the one cable I've auditioned that delivers most completely across the broad spectrum of my listening. In short, the Orchid is aptly named--bold and delicate both. It's now become my reference interconnect.
BBlilikoi, I think you've hit the nail on the head. I've found that the Orchid takes a long time to burn in. You'll find the sibilance clearing and the bass opening up after several hundred hours of use. I have now tried it against the Cardas Golden Reference and Nordost Valhalla but both of these are balanced, and the Orchid is RCA, so the comparison is not truly meaningful.

But as you say, the Orchid handles macro and micro dynamics far better than the others, though the jury is still out for me as to which is more harmonically accurate. The balanced Cardas, for example seems to carry the sound of piano with more body and timbre. I am trying to get hold of either an RCA Cardas or balanced Orchid. Until then, the listening continues...
Kamil--Yes, I think that would be a fair comparison--Cardas RCA to Orchid RCA, or else balanced Orchid to balanced Cardas. That would level things. Re the sibilance I heard, I grant that it could indeed dissipate with more burn-in, but I also suspect it may be my own system, which I have been working very hard to tweak in other ways, including tube-rolling and isolation. I switched input tubes from 70s Mullard E188CCs to NOS 60s Philips 6922 SQ, for example, and that warmed the midrange quite a bit, opened the trebles too. Now, I'm working on isolation with Monument Reference SoundPosts underneath the Cary amp. Haven't found the right positions for them yet, though. The Orchid makes everything clearer, more realistic and immediate through all of this. Let's wish us both luck in our listening.