High end audio is the pursuit of perfection in a world of individuals that each have different inherent tools, in their ears, their minds and the connectivity of the ear and mind. Exploration into known aspects and ...critically... unknown aspects in unknown combination with each other and the known aspects.
Of course there will be conflict. Part of scientific exploration, it is.
Attempts to lock it into engineering rigor will fail, at every single turn.
To add, science has rigor but does not use facts. Science has only theories, as facts cause the arrow of progress to turn back on itself or be in error in perpetuity... as it contains no potential for error correction.
Thus the need for scientific rigor is extremely high in science. This, in order to maintain correctness of course... as a system of self correction, in the one given way. It works, as well as it can. It’s all we can ask. (Scientific rigor...is predominately mental discipline in assessment of data or information/observation--ie the logic of philosophy, where philosophy is science’s actual parent and origin point. Philosophy being about systems of logic/rigor in human thought, one might say. Thus Descartes generally ill applied ’I think, therefore I am’, as a basis of the scientific revolution, expressed in the one way)
At the same science and scientific logic rigor...cannot, under any circumstances, ascribe human law and punishment for violation of laws, into the concept and idea of science as a system of overall human advancement.
Thus science itself, vehemently and by extreme force in all areas (when pushed hard enough), denies the potential for scientific laws to exist.
Theory, only theory. At any and all price.
Engineers use facts as their point of origin as an enterprise and occupation, as a planned for occupational system of principle education and actual day to day usage after the formal teaching period has ended.
This is all about the idea of using the main mental component of standard human dogmatism, where dogmatism and projection into it...is essentially the main psychological constructs of mind in commonality, in humans.
Rote repetitive learning, laws of physics... here’s your law text/religious documents.. that fits your (bulk of humanity’s) projection of mind...and... go forth and build things. Safe things that don’t kill people but work, with some universality within their systems of constraint.
One can see this playing out in just about any post on this forum where the contentious subjects are being discussed.
Some say ’science!’, where they really mean ’dogma!’ (and butchery for all violators of projected law)as they use ’science law’.. laws of physics.
The laws of physics is a thing that does not exist, whatsoever. A thing designed for dogmatic minds, so they can be useful to building out a scientifically enabled world.
Then the theorists can do their work of dealing with what is an actual malleable theoretical enabled world of exploration where they can move forward and not get caught up in curling around themselves and being in a dead end that goes nowhere... as laws prevent it from doing so. CRITICAL. CORE.
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Ie, I can go to any (top) university department and ask the head professors in all the high levels of physics, where the leading edge of things is taught... and any and all of those professors...will look at me like I’ve got three heads, if I mention the idea, or questions that any one of them teaches their students with ’the laws of physics’.
The reality being that they EXPLICITLY disallow anyone to be taught that physics has laws.
So when I get onto these forums and someone screams "laws of physics!, you are crazy, you can’t hear those things, the measurements don’t show it -they cant be true!..
well..
At that moment...I know that I’m very very likely dealing with dogmatic based mind projections that have absolutely nothing to do with science and/ or exploration. and are merely force projections of mind due to ego issues and whatnot.
Interestingly enough, about a month ago, Elon Musk clarified this point and corrected everyone, via twitter, that they are, at SpaceX, in actuality.... rocket ENGINEERS, not Rocket scientists.
Concerning this core point I make, Elon made sure that people know he does not approve of the ’rocket science’ label as it is wholly misapplied. He build rockets with facts, not theories. Rocket engineering is no place for theoretical games.
Leave that exploration to the real world of physicists and their creation and or sorting of the new data points... that engineers can then use to build out the world.
But, since the theories are subject to change in the face of new data and new observations, the engineers can build with their facts and laws but, critically, essentially... engineering and dogmatic mindsets CANNOT demand that others who are exploring the unknown and undefined areas of the world somehow conform to their dogmatic projections of mind.
If an engineering dogmatic mind comes along and demands such slavish obeisance as a projection upon others, it deserves to be slapped down, openly, publicly, and hard. For all the right reasons. As their actions and desires are the death of progress, killed in it’s cradle.
Now, with that out on the open, what’s so hard to understand? Is the blinkered dogmatism, the blind spot... about the nature of science? I just cleared that up....
So go ahead... burn me at the stake, if the desire possesses. Crucify me. Show yourself openly.
Of course there will be conflict. Part of scientific exploration, it is.
Attempts to lock it into engineering rigor will fail, at every single turn.
To add, science has rigor but does not use facts. Science has only theories, as facts cause the arrow of progress to turn back on itself or be in error in perpetuity... as it contains no potential for error correction.
Thus the need for scientific rigor is extremely high in science. This, in order to maintain correctness of course... as a system of self correction, in the one given way. It works, as well as it can. It’s all we can ask. (Scientific rigor...is predominately mental discipline in assessment of data or information/observation--ie the logic of philosophy, where philosophy is science’s actual parent and origin point. Philosophy being about systems of logic/rigor in human thought, one might say. Thus Descartes generally ill applied ’I think, therefore I am’, as a basis of the scientific revolution, expressed in the one way)
At the same science and scientific logic rigor...cannot, under any circumstances, ascribe human law and punishment for violation of laws, into the concept and idea of science as a system of overall human advancement.
Thus science itself, vehemently and by extreme force in all areas (when pushed hard enough), denies the potential for scientific laws to exist.
Theory, only theory. At any and all price.
Engineers use facts as their point of origin as an enterprise and occupation, as a planned for occupational system of principle education and actual day to day usage after the formal teaching period has ended.
This is all about the idea of using the main mental component of standard human dogmatism, where dogmatism and projection into it...is essentially the main psychological constructs of mind in commonality, in humans.
Rote repetitive learning, laws of physics... here’s your law text/religious documents.. that fits your (bulk of humanity’s) projection of mind...and... go forth and build things. Safe things that don’t kill people but work, with some universality within their systems of constraint.
One can see this playing out in just about any post on this forum where the contentious subjects are being discussed.
Some say ’science!’, where they really mean ’dogma!’ (and butchery for all violators of projected law)as they use ’science law’.. laws of physics.
The laws of physics is a thing that does not exist, whatsoever. A thing designed for dogmatic minds, so they can be useful to building out a scientifically enabled world.
Then the theorists can do their work of dealing with what is an actual malleable theoretical enabled world of exploration where they can move forward and not get caught up in curling around themselves and being in a dead end that goes nowhere... as laws prevent it from doing so. CRITICAL. CORE.
~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~
Ie, I can go to any (top) university department and ask the head professors in all the high levels of physics, where the leading edge of things is taught... and any and all of those professors...will look at me like I’ve got three heads, if I mention the idea, or questions that any one of them teaches their students with ’the laws of physics’.
The reality being that they EXPLICITLY disallow anyone to be taught that physics has laws.
So when I get onto these forums and someone screams "laws of physics!, you are crazy, you can’t hear those things, the measurements don’t show it -they cant be true!..
well..
At that moment...I know that I’m very very likely dealing with dogmatic based mind projections that have absolutely nothing to do with science and/ or exploration. and are merely force projections of mind due to ego issues and whatnot.
Interestingly enough, about a month ago, Elon Musk clarified this point and corrected everyone, via twitter, that they are, at SpaceX, in actuality.... rocket ENGINEERS, not Rocket scientists.
Concerning this core point I make, Elon made sure that people know he does not approve of the ’rocket science’ label as it is wholly misapplied. He build rockets with facts, not theories. Rocket engineering is no place for theoretical games.
Leave that exploration to the real world of physicists and their creation and or sorting of the new data points... that engineers can then use to build out the world.
But, since the theories are subject to change in the face of new data and new observations, the engineers can build with their facts and laws but, critically, essentially... engineering and dogmatic mindsets CANNOT demand that others who are exploring the unknown and undefined areas of the world somehow conform to their dogmatic projections of mind.
If an engineering dogmatic mind comes along and demands such slavish obeisance as a projection upon others, it deserves to be slapped down, openly, publicly, and hard. For all the right reasons. As their actions and desires are the death of progress, killed in it’s cradle.
Now, with that out on the open, what’s so hard to understand? Is the blinkered dogmatism, the blind spot... about the nature of science? I just cleared that up....
So go ahead... burn me at the stake, if the desire possesses. Crucify me. Show yourself openly.