Well, Imgoodwithtools, have you heard the vaunted Gryphons? I have enjoyed following a few of your threads, especially as an Ayre owner (twenty series) who previously owned a D'Ag integrated. I agree with your comparisons between the two. I would be slightly happier with D'Ag separates but I had a nice opportunity with Ayre. Agree, not better and worse, just different. But to my ear, 98 for D'Ag and 96 for Ayre- not enough to go break another piggy bank. But I am not enamored of Wilson products (disclaimer, owned Sasha but perhaps didn't optimally equip them) and I'm thrilled with my Rockport Aviors. Andy Payor at Rockport is a huge fan of Gryphon products. And so I wonder? I wonder about Vitus as well. Something about the cold weather in Denmark must spark creativity? So if/when you do have an opportunity to compare Gryphon to D'Ag or to Ayre, I would love to hear your thoughts. Happy listening and thanks for your posts!