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Gripped By Upgrade Fever

I’m sure that 99 percent of the people reading this have suffered from the same syndrome before. So please show some empathy.

I’m two months into my ownership of KEF LS50s. Only a fool would be in a hurry to replace those speakers. I am that fool. It’s just that now that I’ve had a taste of what’s possible . . .


This is a long term plan. First, of course, is a new apartment so that a decent listening position is possible. Next, I spend about $5,000 on speakers and I make the big jump from bookshelves to floorstanders. Because this is all so hypothetical, I won’t mention any specific models and I’m not looking for advice on that point. Instead, let me start somewhere more basic.

A lot of of tower speakers, even the relatively small ones you get for 5K, cram a flotilla of drivers into the available space. Not unusual at all to see a tweeter, two mids, and three woofers. Not hard to find more. Right now, with the LS50, I’m looking at a single apparent source that’s five inches wide. All these drivers look like trouble to me. More crossovers, more timing issues, more phase issues, more I-don’t-know-what.


Is this fear rational? Am I crazy? I notice that at the 5K price point, KEF only uses 2.5 drivers—one Uni-Q and one woofer. Everything else is a passive radiator. While I don’t know what passive radiators actually do, I know that they are not independent sources of sound, that they are somehow just passing along energy from the woofer. Lots of other companies—Tannoy and Zu among them—claim virtues from one or two drivers that cover the entire audio spectrum or at least a big chunk of it, arguing that the simpler approach avoids the problems inherent in having lots of drivers trying to do the same thing.


For some reason, without any listening experience or technical knowledge, that argument appeals to me. Is my fear justified? Are speaker makers beyond such paltry concerns? Thoughts/comments/criticism?
paul6001
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572 posts
 
Hello,
I think you should get the matching sub. KC62 for $1500. This is the same bass technology found in the $25,000 KEF blades. You can put this practically anywhere. They also have speaker line inputs. There are built in crossover functions for placement even an apartment mode. They play down to 11hz and up to 105db. They also have a wireless kit for $199 that clips on the back of the sub so you can put them where they sound best up to 100’ away. No need for the KEF reference speakers. I would also suggest the stands so you can attach the speakers mechanically. I read you are in Brooklyn so you need to find the local KEF dealer to demo them. If anyone is in the Chicagoland area this local store is a KEF dealer and you can demo in your home before you buy. https://holmaudio.com/I heard a roomer they are getting KEF blade 2s very soon to go with their new Ayre dealership. Since I have never been to Axpona this is the first time hearing the KEF Blades 2s. 
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jjss49
6,612 posts
 
there is no arguing that with proper setup, well designed well voiced monitor type stand mounted speakers can be very favorably accompanied by well integrated subwoofers (one, and ideally a pair or more)... the resulting sound can be staggeringly good

this been said, it is also true that many listening environments are also living environments that prohibit proper setup of speakers and subs...
musicbox78
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paul6001

Apartment living and audio usually a bad fit. Floor standers deliver bass and need room to bloom, sound their best. Your better off staying smaller with what you have I feel. 
speakermaster
738 posts
 
You will find that small speakers with small baffles and large floorstanders with narrow baffles all sound small and weak in the musical spectrum in the body range of music which is where most music lives the lower midrange upper bass area. When you move to a large baffle full range speaker or listen to one it is very hard to listen to other types after that experience because so much of the power and body are gone from the music and so is the fun of listening.
chorus
976 posts
 
There is only one argument that should appeal to you.
It comes from your own ears. 
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