Greatest Guitar Band


I thought just before Christmas I'd get a good thread going. IMHO,the greatest guitar band was the Yardbirds, not because E Clapton,or J Beck, or J Page was in it but because Chris Deja, and Paul Samwell-Smith were great rhythm and bass guitarists that could rock and keep up with the above. Plus Jim McCarty the drummer could keep the group in line and fine harmonica work from Keith Relf(ok not the greatest vocalist, more of a finesse singer).They had it all, I cannot think of another band that had three great guitarists in the band at one time(J Beck, C Deja, P Samwell-Smith). In 1967, when J Beck and J Page were in the band togther as co-lead guitars, they were the lead in band for the rolling stones, they just blow them away,ok, that is not a fair comparison considering the rolling stones still cannot play their instruments very well. But in comparison to say Led Zepplin, LZ did not have a rhthym guitarist(except J Page would overdub that part on recordings). That made them sound not as well rounded live as far as guitar work is concerned. I am not saying LZ was a bad band on the contrary,they put on probably the best show ever, but I do not consider them a guitar band per se. Besides, J Page stole vitually from his former band anyway. Remember "How Many More Times" is a repackaged version of the YBs "Smokestack Lightning", a Howlin Wolf tune. YBs version is in my mind the best rock song ever. So what do you think????
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Check out Savoy Brown or the original Fleetwood Mac. I have not seen FM's first group of albums like "Kiln House" on CD and do not know if they exist nor have I checked for CD's by Savoy Brown. I am just going from memory of vinyl and also saw them both live quite a few times when growing up in the Midwest. Lots of guitarists in each band and Peter Green was in the original FM. Another popular guitar band at the time was Wishbone Ash that I personally did not listen to much. I once saw FM and Savoy Brown share the stage for an encore at a concert and it looked like there were nine or ten guitarists on the stage at one time, but they played some standard blues tunes and did so well together. Better than an "all star" band if you have seen the likes of those. Another favorite other than those you mention was Alan Holdsworth who I felt was somewhat like Beck in his "Blow by Blow" stage, but all the time. Holdsworth also did a huge favor for a friend of mine (allowed him to mix his album at Alan's home digital studio for free when funds ran out on the private project, plus contributed a solo.) and is a stand up guy as well.
Yes, saw Alvin Lee quite a few times (Ten Years After) also remembering Johhny Winters and Rick Deringer as being good on stage. Lee's performances were not very consistant and were either great or very sloppy. Saw Deryk and the Dominoes after Duane Allmans death and thought they were great. Also always enjoyed the Allamn Brothers live and Creedence Clearwater (much better live than their albums). Hated Ted Nugent and the Amboy Dukes but always enjoyed Ry Cooder and some of the bands that Taj Mahal put together. My favorite rythem players were Jim Gordan, James Keltner, Charlie Watts, Carl Radle (Mr. Taste) and John Entwistle whos bass playing was remarkable when seen live. Also Keith Moon before his demise. Zepalin got on my nerves and I did not care that much for them until they came out with Houses of the Holy, just my personal taste. Saw Cream as well and did not like EC's work except for Badge, liked him before and after though. Two others that I saw once live, both in bars in Iowa City, Ia in the early 70's, were Bonnie Raite and Asleep at the Wheel (some of the best steel and slide guitar ever), very clean but "out there" playing. One other good band were the Faces that played with Rod Sterwart. The only CD's that I own from this era are "Blow by Blow" and "Layla" on MFSL, it would be nice to add some others.
Garfish: Yes, I used to like and listen to JJ Cale (Mr. Mellow), also liked Humble Pie although I thought they had more of a top 40 sound, but were good players. Quicksilver Messenger Service, The Tubes and early electric Neil Young come to mind as well. From the late 70's on I feel that David Byrne of the Talking Heads was/is a good, refined, guitarist, not nearly as simple as he appears to be from a musicians standpoint. The real problem is remembering what and who I listened to at that time in my life. LOL.
I think that Greg Allman did the solo on Scaggs version of "Brother Can You Spare Me a Dime".
I mentioned Cream. I thought that they lacked focus and didn't care for the Yardbirds either (too crude and ego driven to mesh). Shoot me now or later.
Actually, Clapton buried Chet in front of millions on the Ed Sullivan show during a guitar duke out. It was no contest.
Wsmatau: Sorry, no I do not. I just happened to see it one Sunday evening when I was a teenager. It was not pleasant to watch as Chet was somewhat hurt and embarrassed. I suspect that if there was any kind of a rehearsal, that Clapton held back a little during it. I also remember that Jimi Hendrix was on the Johnny Carson Show and Janis Joplin was on Dick Cavets show at around the same time. Hendrix was all smacked out and Janis was sober and shy. Strange TV times.
Garfish: Since you mentioned the Thunderbirds, I may as well through in the Fab. Rhinestones, Electric Flag and (barf) Spooky Tooth. I have never really listened to SRV and wonder if he ever did a cover of the song "Trouble"? I searched the record clubs and never came up with it on an album. Any suggestions for the best SRV to own if you are only going to have one? I just picked up a live Pink Floyd double CD (in weird packaging) to cover PF.
Thanks Mikec: Little Wing is one of my favorite's done by JH. The only time that I have heard SRV was on a TV special that showed concert footage a couple years back, and I was very impressed. He did a Hendrix tune then but I think that it was different from the two mentioned, can't remember what it was though, maybe the one that Robin Trower did (blank on that one too, I'm happy to say:-). Funny, I just picked up a copy of "Electric Ladyland" this past week at a junk store, the stereo effects really got the cats ears going. My wife said "it's hurting their ears" and I said "no, they're just tripping."
Mikec: If you have not yet, check out the Cowboy Junkies. They will change your mind about one new band, theirs anyway. The one thing that I find missing in most modern popular songs is the guitar solo. Where is it?
I just picked up "The Best of Pete Townshend, Cool walking, smooth talking, straight smoking, firestoking" today. These are modern renditions of some of his older songs. They do not have the wild resonance of concerts played at race tracks, stadiums or in large auditoriums in Pigsville, they are more intimate recordings. No Roger on vocals Townshend sings them all. There are even a few tiny solos, I have never considered much of Townsend's rythmic offerings to be solos as such. There was a music series on television called "Story Tellers." If anyone has seen some of the small concerts on the series, this is what the CD is like. One song on the CD "Uneasystreet" was previously unreleased. Kind of interesting to hear what an old guitar wildman is doing (sounds like) recently ,released in 1996. I also finally got a copy of The Eagles "Hell Freezes Over" CD that someone mentioned a while back in another thread. A lot of their old giutar work, but not as drugged out as before. Really good playing IMO.