Just read the reviews on Audioreview.com. Actual people that own them will tell you exactly how they are not. I personally own a pair and I agree with Joliet, They are a great a value not to mention their appearance. The break in time is a little extensive but once that's over WATCH OUT!. I bought them from an excellent person, UnderwoodWally which sells them on this site if your interested. I hope this helps you out.
