GaN amps: Peachtree or LSA Voyager?


Peachtree 400 and LSA Voyager GaN amps: Does anyone have direct experience with both of these amps? Can you comment on any differences that might exist in sound? I know the internals are supposed to be the same but even if that is true implementation can make a difference. Both are highly regarded by those who own them.

Might also be helpful if you listed the rest of your system (Pre and speakers).

My current system is: Bricasti M3 DAC; Rogue RP-7 (NOS) pre; Bel Canto Ref600M amps; Fyne F1-8 speakers.

Thanks in advance!

markmuse

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God won't fix righteous ego obsession.  You have to stop......yourself.  When you truly love others.....then you respect all opinons......for they are you.....you are them.  Love unites.....ego separates.  Love = happiness......ego = unhappiness.

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The AGD tube is not a real tube.....it is a solid state circuit in a tube bottle. A tube is a type of amplifier.....AGD did this just for marketing......to make it look cool (it does allow different circuits to be changed down the line....but of course, that could also be done internally). That is why the same circuit is in their new baby stereo amp.....and no fake tubes.

The Voyager and Peachree use modules from Elegant Audio Solutions.....they were listened to and tweaked for years......how is the Orchard better than that?....designed by one guy.

The ONLY way to know which sounds best is to A/B.  I don't care which one is best.......your ears will know.  So, wlll someone get them both in their hands at the same time and A/B and tell us something REAL......or do we just keep guessing?

And who has A/Bed the AGD or Atmasphere with any of the above?  Probably, no one......so we don't know diddly-squat..

Another one to consider is the Purifi module and especially the brand new "better sounding' Purifi modded by myself.....or even sold as stock by VTV.....I bet that is nice too.  BTW,  i don't care if I ever mod one as my new Music Purifiers are going to take over the world....he he.....

So many products.....so little money and time and energy.

They all get rave reviews....they all have fan boys....none of them have ever compared......Full of unknowns....this high end audio is......Back in the 70s we all knew exactly what all the products did because there were so few of them......my buddies and I had almost all the serious high end components available at the time and we could just go over to each others house and do an A/B real quickly.....this was a five mile radius of people in Berkeley.

Wouldn't it be cool if some magazine got all the above amps in and burned them all in for 400 hours and compared them all in a couple of systems.....of course, all of them on the same footers, same power cords, etc.  Will this ever happen.?....absolutely not....because the losers in the sonic test would never advertise in the magazine again and the persons reviewing them would never get a anything else....ever....from the loser companies.  Interesting that cameras, cars, motorcycles, tvs, almost everything else in the world are tested and compared......not high end audio.....it is a mystery game.....enjoy the mystery.

Here is what is REALLY cool.....all of the above amps are great....they are.....you would be happy with any of them (that is why they are all getting rave reviews).....but which one is best?   Flip a coin.

You don't have to flip a coin to be happy.....just choose the happiness side and feel it, live it and be it.  Blessings to you all.

The Voyager/Peachtree modules designed by EAS are the latest thing from them.  The reason they do not measure as well as Purifi and Orchard is that they chose to use very little feedback (20 db....decided by listening tests....something Kuibo does not understand).  Purifi and Orchard use a ton of feedback. 

As far as switching frequency.....this is arguable....at best.  

Please, do not listen to me or anyone else.....listen to the amps and decide for yourself which one is for you.  All of them have rave reviews.....If you want to decide beforehand based on measurements....then fine......but don't think your super fine measureing amp is the best sonically.  I modded the Purifi based VTV amp so check out 10audio.com and read his reivews of the NAD using this same module versus my modded VTV......he gave the NAD a 6 and my amp a 9.5 bordering on 10 (10 point scale)......this is for sound, of course.....he did not measure them.  Every single thing you do to an amp changes the sound.  I can improve the Orchard, as well.....very easily....and yet, it will not measure one iota different.  This game is infinite......just like our infinite nature.....enjoy the infinity.....and beyond!

I send you big kisses and hugs........some day you will stop saying the same thing over and over......some day you will actually listen to things and then decide what sounds best.....Someday.....does come....hopefully soon for you... Until that day.....you will not be as happy as you can be......For "being right" is not a happy state of being.........Would you rather be right or loving?  I love you.  

So calling people "snake oil saleman shilling their fraudulent claims" is not rude and insulting? Those that actually listen know you are the shill here......here to promote your perception that "measurements rule". You don’t get any money for your stating your opinion.....but you get to make others wrong and therefore get to beat on your chest. The behavior is quite immature. ......However, you are not your behavior. As your mother and your father I love you with all my heart as you are divine, worthy, deserving the best and full of beauty. However, your actions do not reflect the truth about you.......as a good parent would say.....I love you, I cherish you....I adore you......but that behavior is not loving.....so, GO TO YOUR ROOM.......and when you come out.....don’t do that again.....it is bad behavior......and you are better....yes, way better than that.

Stating measurements is fine.....but thinking you know something about how something sounds by stating them is nonsense......and thinking that everyone is like you and bases all their purchases on measurements...is equally nonsense. We HAVE EARS. We believe what we hear. I have a new product.....a speaker rf filter (I call it the Music Purifier....because that is what it does.......lowers audible distortion and noise). It is a filter you put on the speaker terminals that filters the sound WAY above 100K......way away from the audio band. It is measureable.....you can put it on a scope and see the frequency where it starts to roll off......it is science....in that sense. However, why would filtering your speaker wire at such a high frequency have anything to do with how your system sounds? Who cares!!!?!!! Does it lower audible noise and distortion....yes, it does. How do you know?....you simply put it on and listen......if you do not get any sonic benefit you send it back for a full refund and I will even pay you the return shipping cost.....so not one cent lost to try it.

Kuirbo is now rolling his eyes....saying "There he goes again....the snake oil saleman is shilling his fradualent claim wares"......to the unsuspecting and gullible masses (you know those with "expectation bias".....who will "think" the product does what I say and keep it).

He he...what a game we play

This game will always be here on this plane of existence.....people will argue and state that their side is the right side and the other side are the infidels...or heathens or devils or snake oil saleman or whatever. We all have brains....we all have a heart. When you use common sense and trust your senses....you will know what things actually improve your sound and which do not. Can you trust your ability to hear? I wish you all self trust......and mostly.....self love.

Do you want to experience a more realistic sound?  If the answer is yes......then you need to listen......numbers can tell you something....but not much.

I have been modding and manufacturing and assembling products since the late 70s.......what I found out almost right away.....is, that everything makes a difference.  You cannot measure the differences in wire, resistors, jacks......and tons and tons of other stuff.......but you can tell how they sound different and which one is preferred.......this is the basis of everything I do.  My latest product can be measured because it is a real filter......but WHY it affects the audio band when it is operating so far out of it?  I don't care.....and MOST that want better sound don't care......they want better sound.....and this is exactly what I give people......Try, yes try to find a negative word about me or my products or services on this or any other forum during the entire history of the internet (customer comments)......go on....try......don't think you will find a single one......but maybe I am wrong.....maybe there is one.  IF EVERYONE likes the sonic results of what I do....then I would say I do a great service to those people.....and for very, very little money......sounds like a WIN/WIN to me.

So who are these people that Kuribo is trying to protect from the big bad wolf here?  Is everyone of my customers duped and hypnotized by me that they say nice things?  Are they all deaf?  Are they all sheep?.....being led to slaughter......No, they are happy people with better sound after installing my products......Are people smart enough to know which product sounds best to them?......yes, you are....you are smart......Don't listen to me....don't listen to anyone......listen and decide for yourself.....you will KNOW.....you have the power!

I think the modded VTV Purifi, the LSA, the Peachtree, the Orchard Ultra and the Benchmark amps are the five best solid state amps at $3k and less......Which is the best?  Who knows?.....only those that A/B fully burned in amps in their own system....So, who is going to buy all five and burn them in and listen and let everyone know your findings?.....anyone?......nope.....it never will happen.  People are not that inquisitive........So, you scientists will lean towards the ones that measure best....Benchmark, Purifi and Orchard......and you subjectivists will be all confused.....he he........just the way it is.....But most people would be happy with any of them.

What is so cool is that all these amps are great......it is a great time to be alive for audio.....as the lower price range is getting so frickin good that these super expensive boxes seem more and more silly.

Makes sense....what you heard. Van Alstine is not a tweaker....he does not believe that parts or connectors or fuses, damping, etc....make any difference. He uses ordinary wire, connectors, capacitors, resistors, unbypassed power supply caps, transformer mounted with steel hardware, fuses everywhere.......even on the output.. etc. etc. If you tweaked his amps they would sound completely different and way, way, way better. I am not modding his amp....he would not approve and would freak out and anyone with a modded Van Alstine amp woud probably never get help with any issue, etc.

As I have stated....high end audio is all over the place......not so with quarter mile hot rodding.....everyone knows how to make a car go fast........all knowledge is available to anyone......In high end audo....it is a giant mystery for most people. When I tell people to remove binding posts and spades for better sound, etc.....they have no idea what I am talking about. There is no "tweaking bible".....where all the secret sauce is revealed. I am not making one......no one would buy it.....people want to believe the advertising sales pitch.

This is why you have to listen for yourself. Then you will know what is what. I appreciate all serous A/Bs of equipment. Thank you Mark for letting us know what you heard.......My friend used to say "It all comes out in the wash"......meaning, that over time....the truth about things is known.

The truth about the intrinsic beauty of our soul is what is always real...May you bask in the light of your own being.......and radiate it to everyone.