Full-sounding SS amps (besides Pass)


Speaker interactions aside, what solid state amp brands/designers tend to have a fuller sound these days? Not necessarily warm or tubey per se, but fleshed out in the upper bass and harmonically complete in the midrange, as opposed to lean. E.g. an Australian ME Sound amp I have from a while back has this quality, without sounding overtly warm. 

Obvious candidates: Pass, Luxman. What else?

Cost no object, feel free to throw out one-liners. Think of it as a poll.  (Please don't answer tubes though, thanks. :D )
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Based on limited auditions, I'd add the Chord SPM 1200 Mk. II to this list as well.
Another example: original Bryston B60, circa 2000. Listening to it now (with some light mods) and while it isn't the last word in transparency, the lower midrange is really lovely. I haven't heard the newer models but I hear they are leaner-sounding.
@sufentanil ah yes, McCormack, have heard that one and would concur. Also have heard that about Plinius SA-100 but I hear the newer models are not as juicy? Or perhaps it's the integrateds that are a little cool.

@twoleftears adding Sugden to the list. Class A also reminds me, I've heard Clayton is another good one.
@gsm18439 @gnostalgick have not heard of those, will check them out.

Keep 'em coming! :)
Sad to see the McCormack line is no longer manufactured (I've been out of the loop a while) and SMc doesn't make an amp.  :(

@dweller I didn't realize BAT made pure SS designs, I assumed they were at least hybrids. TBH I have never been a fan of BAT (tube) sound at shows, but I haven't heard their latest.
Ah yes, Edge. I evaluated the Edge G6 for a good long period a while back, before Tom Maker sold the company and split off. It was the best SS amp I had heard up to that point (and still great by today’s standards, I bet). @marqmike I’d agree it gets "somewhat close" in the fullness criterion, definitely a complete sound but a bit cooler than the likes of Pass. I’ve been itching to try the Maker G9.
Has anyone here heard the Neodio integrateds? I seem to recall a Merlin owner stating it was the best amp they've heard on the VSM's, which makes me guess it's on the fuller side tonally.
Sorry, I should clarify - I'd like to focus on currently-active brands/models. I'm interested specifically in things I could potentially review on my blog (http://taww.co). So stuff that is commercially available and supported.

(That said, used/rebuilt stuff is great and as a side project I'm always fascinated by modification potential. My Bryston B60 and Ayre AX-7e have been tuned up quite a bit with simple mods. I don't intend to recommend these mods broadly, it is simply my own pursuit of a truer reference sound.)

@blindjim agreed that tube pre + SS amp can be the perfect combo, and I'm not opposed to the idea. I actually own a pretty decent tube linestage for that purpose. But I'm looking specifically for amps that don't require the tube front-end to flesh out their sound. Doesn't mean they can't sound even better with a tube pre though - in fact I think the best tube pre's with the best SS amps can be the best of both worlds.
@pbnaudio - Hi Peter - I remember Marty DeWulf, whom I wrote for a number of years, was a big fan of your designs. They look amazing... if only you had something a little smaller, or better yet, my apartment were bigger. :-D

@mitch2 I think MOSFET "mist" or softness is a thing of the past in a proper design. I've heard a number of more recent designs that have none of that and are indistinguishable from a good bipolar amp in speed and clarity. April Music Ai500 when properly biased (they had some QC issues) was one example, a few others I've heard but can't recall off the top of my head. 

@bobheinatz I just contacted Stéphane Even @ Neodio to see if he is seeking a US review. Really intrigued by his designs.
Thanks all for the suggestions, some interesting ones I hadn't heard of and will look into.