Frustrated with Vinly


Hey All,

Just coming here to let out out my frustration with Vinyl. I know that Vinyl takes patience but it's frustrating when playing some of my newer records and they have noises that I do not want to hear. Meaning, I try to clean them and they still have noise (pops, crackles, etc). When playing at low volumes of course you do not hear as much but when I turn up the volume is when it gets irritating.Β 

I can understand if older vinyl would sound like this but these are my newer records that I bought (amazon or barnes and nobles).

Now, I know the products that I am using are probably not great in the first place and I will probably need to upgrade to some more serious cleaner).

Currently trying to use a combo of: Kaiu Vinyl record cleaning set and I have also tried the Audio Technica AT6012 Record Care Kit.

So now I am considering either a Spin Clean type system or Pro-JectΒ  VC-S2 ALU Type cleaning system.

Any suggestions?

I almost want to give up on Vinyl sometimes and stick to digital (cd, hi res files, qobuz streaming).

Current equipment: denon dp-300f w/2m blue cart.

Thanks

Jay
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Showing 17 responses by uberwaltz

Bkeske.

Great post and welcome back to the analog world!

You are so right about it being a total waste of time comparing different sources.
I play records, cassette tapes, reel to reel tapes, CD, DVD-A, SACD and stream Qobuz and Tidal!

No not doing 8 track.... Lol.

I enjoy each media for what it is and rarely sit there thinking well that sounded better than the version on XXX.

Each have their plus and minus points and I leave it at that.
Vinyl.....High expectations.....mostly disappointing.

Digital....A decent dynamic listening experience that if you get it right "Jams"
better than vinyl.

Sighs heavily.........πŸ˜”πŸ˜”
Jay23
Stick with the tapes!
I have nearly as many tapes as records!
I use two Nakamichi decks and with the zx7 replay is outstanding.
Enjoy!
no 8 track???
Haha, I only act stupid here for entertainment......

lol.

Mind I have been looking at DAT tape players of late......

Doh!
Forgot to add AM radio from my collection of vintage AM tube radios made here in the USA.

Works of art as much as anything else and indeed have an old 78rpm record player of same vintage hooked up to one of them on its phono input.

Looks are quite something indeed so I truly get the ops point on looks as most of my vintage radio collection purchases were based on looks as much as performance or desirability.
Jay, forget vinyl. When I visited NYC last year, I purchased like 20 expensive brand new 180g jazz LPs.Two of them being 45rpm LPs. When I started to listen to them....pure frustration!!!. Some of them, out of the sealed cover, already showed a few pops and clicks right away.Quite irritating and a waste of money. Listening to vinyl in this century is absolutely ridiculous. Long live the well recorded CDs !!!! By the way : I own a very good high end system, which makes listening to vinyl a real torture. Don't waste your time and money with "cleaning" devices. I have tried several "techniques". You may mitigate it, but bear in mind that noise from vinyl is non-removable !!! Good luck..
That is quite some first post! lol.

If you had read through this thread you would see the part of "new" albums has been covered quite extensively.

And as for cleaning being a waste of time and money, obviously you are entitled to your opinions but I would try to avoid making false blanket statements.
Good luck to you too and enjoy those CD,S as do I along with records, cassette tapes, reel to reel tapes, FM radio and internet streaming .
Chak
While a lot of people can appreciate the engineering of the new Technics, not that many can stomach the looks and for some that IS very important, their are at times the better half to appease as well.

Now we all get your passion for Technics and not criticising that at all but.....
Once you have heard it a dozen times it starts to wear thin and get annoying.
It is only facts in your opinion, nothing more my friend.

Maybe a little more humility in your posting would go a long way to not alienating everybody around you?

There are a LOT of users of your so called plastic 2k belt drives of all models and I am sure they are quite insulted by your remarks.

Not myself as I do not own a belt drive, does not mean I intend to start bashing them in public though.

And no I am not going to suggest different TT for the op as that is not what the thread was originally about and only seems to have degenerated into that.
You vinyl guys mystify me.
If I had to explain it, you wouldn't understand πŸ™„πŸ™„
Vinly is swell!
He is doing great since he ate his rice crispies
Snap, Crackle and Pop!
The main problem with "common sense" is that it is the least common of all senses today.
Only play music about 8 hours a day on average so I guess my musings are based on theory only......

😎😎
Believe whatever you like Chakster, it’s all good.

There are plenty of members here who know have experienced exactly the same state of "new records" that I have reported, maybe some others get lucky?
Who knows, just lets all enjoy the music!


I am afraid it is simply NOT TRUE that all any NEW record needs is a quick brush with a carbon fiber brush, sorry.

Take a look at any new record under a microscope and I think you would be shocked at the debris you see onΒ  a lot of "regular" new records, only if you step up to the specialist audiophile pressings might you get away with not cleaning a new record.

I bought a number in the Barnes & Noble 50% off sale and first thing I did was US clean them all.

It is unfortunately a sad reality, not an urban myth.

Older perfect releases should be much better but of course then you are in the hands of the seller as to whether their description is valid and no even buying at an LRS and eyeballing them yourself is just NOT going to tell you if it needs a deep clean at all.

I am pretty good by visual but not that good and all my records now get a US clean before playing.

I realise that regime is not for everybody who just wants to play music but again it is a reality.
Ultrasonic cleaning has indeed been an eye opener for myself Terry.

Now I wonder how I listened to anything before I had a set up!
Bdp24 is spot on with the possibility that a lot of ticks and pops that a lot of people assume is dirty vinyl is actually a Phonostage that is not quite right.

Now of course it could just be exactly dirty vinyl but I know when I " returned" to vinyl I was extremely underwhelmed with my entry level gear.

Don't give up though as once vinyl sings to you, well there's no turning back then.

And saying that I am sitting listening to a stupendous DVD-A recording right now, lol.😎😎