Frustrated with Vinly

stylus brush very lightly cleans area prior to stylus, like new dust speck that just landed there, not actually cleaning the groove.

and, shure brush is anti-static as well as designed/controlled damping.

I wrote to Jico. the brush on Jico replacement stylus is just a brush, no designed/controlled damping, no static removal.

repeated problem with new records? It would be a shame to give up on LP's.

new: at most, remove paper dust with discwasher anti-static brush, no fluid, should sound fine. 

do you have good light where your tt is, to see how much dust may be remaining?

alignment? are you good at all the alignments needed for the stylus to do a great job? stylus worn, chipped, ????

IOW, what's not right? as you say, frustrating for new lps not to sound great.

I have to wonder if you are getting your stylus very clean. I had an old cartridge, not used in years, even alcohol would not get grub off both stylus and shaft.

magnifying glass. electrical contact cleaner took it all off. then a rinse with alcohol and good to go. spray in direction to avoid getting up into stylus shaft housing. then frequent stylus brushing, and semi-frequent stylus fluid cleaning

new and noisy

I just bought double album, billy joels greatest hits. very old, never played it seems.

discs literally covered with paper dust particles. First, dust off side 2 before putting on platter (don't want all that dust on your mat). then dust off bulk of side one dust, then side one on platter. final dusting with discwasher anti-static brush, NO FLUID. I hold brush in one place and spin the lp via the edge (don't want any force on tt motor), wipe brush clean on my pants, go again. Played quietly.

buying many new lps lately, just a light touch with brush. 

If using fluid, put a thin line of fluid on the leading edge of the brush, twice around with that part of the brush, then rotate the brush to dry area to pick up fluid. Then wait, till fully dry before playing.

you may want to get a Shure Cartridge, i.e. 97xe, (elliptical stylus), which has a damping/anti-static brush, cleans grooves just prior to stylus gets there.

best of luck solving this.

Ability to NOT HEAR normal amount of Static is Acquired, allows involvement without disruption. Ticks and pops are disruptive to enjoyment.

Played LP's from 1960 until CD players cost became reasonable. Teenager, cheap equipment, no care of lps.

Played CD's, Holy Crap, no noise, for life, Nirvana.

Inherited Thorens Heavy Platter TD124 with SME 3009 arm, bought Shure V15V.

Tried Vinyl again. Noisy.

Had to re-acquire the brain's ability to listen to the music and the brain to ignore static. Once acquired, realized, CD was a trick, Analog is the real deal.

Realized, many of my old LP's were beat up, so began acquiring new or very good used.

Cleaned on the TT Platter, with squirt and brush and wait to dry. Waiting to dry disruptive to enjoyment.

Just upgraded to Dual Arm TT, superb heavy plinth, better arms, new cartridges.

Better equipment does a better job of revealing problems, i.e. my dirty records.

Bought one of these, (like chackster recommended)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GSSQ1MN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

the primary advantage for me is the drying rack, clean 10 at a time, play them later or tomorrow. (chacksters has the drying rack also, it is just not shown, it stores inside the base.
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repeat, IF New LP's are too noisy, it's more likely cartridge alignment/stylus condition, New LP should need a simple swish with dust/static brush, and sound great.

I just came up with a variation to use the inexpensive manual cleaner/drying rack

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GSSQ1MN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

*** Instead of mixing a whole batch of cleaning fluid in the tub of the cleaner (only to clean a few or 1 batch of 10) ***

normal use is: distilled water, 2 capfulls of their concentrated cleaner chemical, and a few drops of wetting agent (dishwasher rinse stuff)

*** VARIATION using Small Spray Bottle of Pre-Mixed Cleaning Fluid ***

I leave the tub empty

I remove the brushes, and spray ready mixed cleaner on the brushes to get them wet and ready, and they swell to narrow the gap between them to reach the lp surface.

I lay a sheet of plastic on the table

I spray the lp with the pre-mix, flip it over, spray other side,

in the machine with wet brushes waiting

manual spin as normal

pick up lp with provide eyeglass cloth, prevents finger oil

dry bulk of fluid manually with provided cloth, as it's normal process

into the drying rack.

rinse the tub and brushes

IF you go the JVC-Victor Plinth route,

be very cautious about an included Victor Tonearm, UA-7045 or long version UA-7082.

they can be great, but, as Chackster and others alerted me/us, VERY OFTEN the rubber gasket is deteriorated and needs replacement.

I took mine apart, figured it out, wrote a thread how to fix it.

Fear not if you want one, but, be aware of this, don’t pay too much for one, and be handy if you want to fix it yourself.

Live near me, Plainfield, NJ? I’ll fix it for you, no charge.

LOOKS, oh yeah, important, I am an Interior Designer (Corporate Office Space).

I had cool looking and performing vintage Thorens/SME, made a custom wood base for it, terrific,

Found a Technics SP-15, Plastic Base, gave it to my friend.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Technics-SH-15B3-base-dust-cover-and-hinges-Technics-SP-15-and-SP25-Turntable/323741055782?hash=item4b60787b26:g:ReMAAOSwrnRaVO67

they make a nice wood base, would perk it’s look up quite a bit.

https://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649580540-technics-sp15-sp25-plinth-great-shape/

but Thorens bearing transmitted vertical vibration too much.

So, I’ve been compromising with Plastic Technics’s for years.

Recently decided, retired, listening more, why not move up. Thought about long 12" arm. Coincidentally, MONO cartridge thread here. Learned about superb plinths made by Denon, JVC Victor.

Learned about JVC Spinners TT61, 71,81, 101 (picked 81).

OMG, learned about Victor Large Plinth CL-P2 big, solid, heavy, and fits two arms.

Put Mono together with 2 arm wood deck, got this beauty which certainly LOOKS great while being great.

https://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649563331-victor-jvc-tt-81-high-quality-quartz-lock-turntable-with-fidelity-research-tonearm/?utm_campaign=response-received&utm_source=notification&utm_medium=email

Point is, Chackster can be too ..., but he is right about the vintage Denon and JVC.

Budget,

Dual Deck with 1 arm (use for mono), convert 1,000 CAD to USD $775. add $150 ship with insurance. Add $50. PayPal 2.9% fee to convert foreign currencies: $975. delivered, Budget: $1,000. USD

Now get a nice Stereo arm of choice. I got lucky, member here, uberwaltz (thanks again) found it for me

https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/649571086-lustre-801-tonearm/?utm_campaign=response-received&utm_source=notification&utm_medium=email

Cost: $650. offer accepted. : $700. delivered, Budget: $1,000. USD

Total, delivered: $ $1,675. Budget: $2,000.

Just saying, I am in love with the LOOKS as well as the performance.

Giving your arm and cartridge the advantage of a solid base/plinth makes a big difference!

no 8 track???

CLEAN, QUIET LP’s (inexpensive manual method)

I’m loving how quiet my dirty old lp’s sound.

Your problem helped me out, I now have a very successful inexpensive manual cleaning method. I am getting essentially no noise out of old dirty static filled lps. I just cleaned a few NEW lp’s, to check, no noise, so goodbye mold compounds, ..

If you get noise after this, something else is wrong!
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Listen to some music while doing this of course.
Wear thin plastic gloves to protect your hands and block finger oil

1. plastic sheet to protect the table below. smooth white, so you can see any/every speck. kitchen garbage bag, or, thin plastic table cloths from the party store, something.
2. lay lp flat
3. cover lp paper label with plastic lid diameter of label, i.e. chinese soup take-out lid.
4. spray cleaning fluid on lp (my home-made mix below)
5. CRITICAL: scrub fairly aggressively: circular, back and forth a few times, with soft multi bristle brush (pre-wet with cleaning fluid for 1st lp) try an lp you don’t care about, you will find you can be more aggressive than you think. this is what really cleans deep into the grooves.
6. flip, clean other side: place carefully so paper label goes down onto dry area of plastic
7. rinse in distilled water in the record cleaning kit. CRITICAL: Distilled Water ONLY!!! spin 2x each direction, it has fine brushes for final cleaning while rinsing.
8. use the two included cloths to handle/pre-dry the lp, and put in the included drying rack.

note: dry the center area of the plastic sheet where the paper label goes frequently with a separate cloth. dump distilled water after each batch of ten. rinse everything and dry between batches.
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Equipment

1. record cleaning kit with drying rack for 10 lps, $58.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GSSQ1MN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

2. distilled water, $1.00 per gallon (check online for stock before going to the store)

https://grocery.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-Distilled-Water-1-Gallon/10315382?wmlspartner=wlpa&se...

3. alcohol, 91%, $3.00

https://www.target.com/p/isopropyl-alcohol-91-32oz-up-up-8482/-/A-13970972?ref=tgt_adv_XS000000&...


4. wetting agent. $4.00 I use Finish, Jet Dry (dishwasher stuff)

https://www.amazon.com/Finish-Jet-Dry-8-45oz-Dishwasher-Drying/dp/B0014E82II/ref=asc_df_B0014E82II/?...

5. soft multi-bristle brush, I found one in a drawer, but here’s a 3 pack, $9.00

https://smile.amazon.com/Scalp-Scrubbie-Sterile-Cradle-Sponge/dp/B005EJ7YH4/ref=sr_1_154_sspa?ascsub...=

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my mix, nothing scientific, a small 6 oz spray bottle (8oz, 10, doesn’t matter)

1. a few drops of wetting agent
2. 1 cap of condensed cleaning fluid that came with the kit
3. fill with alcohol.

you may think it’s a pretty strong alcohol mix, but you will be rinsing right away, and, you will find, even that strong, finger oil spots will be very reduced but not fully disappear.

I’m loving how quiet my dirty old lp’s sound.

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CLEAN STYLUS! Leave a small mirror on TT under your headshell, so you can see if the stylus is clean. Clean the stylus during if needed, and always after every listening session.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DI8I2JM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

my friend uses gel stuff, loves it

https://coloredvinylrecords.com/blog/best-gel-type-stylus-cleaners/

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Still use Anti-Static brush before each play, DRY, just a light touch needed to get any paper sleeve dust, airborne dust.