Flatscreen between speakers


Has anyone found a solution to cancel or at least improve the acoustic glare caused by a flatscreen tv on the wall behind the speakers? I don’t have a dedicated room and have to share the room with my home theater setup. I have thought of using an appropriate curtain and treat the tv as if it was a window. I am also considering light 3D printed panels that I can temporarily hung when listening to music and take down when watching TV with the wife. 
I tried hanging a couple of thick towels on it to see if there would be any improvement and the answer is yes. The center image is more solid and a little deeper. Nothing drastic but if I could squeeze anything positive, why not. Please let me know if you have confronted this issue in the past and whether you were able to solve it. Thanks. 

spenav

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spenav OP

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I am lucky, my wife's twin sister can make stuff. I always bought CDs and T-Shirts from local musicians, but don't wear them, I got the idea to have her make me a quilt out of the T-Shirts, these are my two grand nephews holding it up. Except for BB King and George Thorogood, all local New Jersey Bands

 

spenav OP, others

Don’t Skip a Center Speaker, even if it has to be small, or behind something, try one

I love music videos, concerts ....., streaming performances, i.e. search YouTube, Voice, it is all over the world, and there is quite a lot in English from all the foreign countries to enjoy

I often force 2 channel and get better results when pseudo surround has been created somewhere along the line

I am surprised that you do not have a true center channel, when content is originally created, center dialog/content does not exist in FL and FR so Phantom Center cannot create what doesn’t exist. There is no need for Bass in the center.

I have found a true dedicated center, even small, the location just below, or even behind the image if the sound can get thru legs or an open base, in my current setup I built a riser to give me a 7" high space for a center speaker. (We made temporary spacers below to test the image height/neck comfort and see any reflections while sitting/viewing, didn't want to go too high).

here is a very efficient Klipsch Center (no rear ports) (that’s art, not a speaker above the tv)

I just changed to a smaller Jamo Center that blends better, the Klipsch is too efficient, the Jamo is real Cherry and blends with my DBX Soundfield 100’s better

my 1st center was a very small Bose VCS-10, it sounded very good, even once from behind a big CRT in a wall unit (notice the top slots)

  

 

spenav OP

I would prove I needed to bother covering it up, it may not make much difference.

Measure Room Frequencies from Seated Ear Height Listening position(s)1st, no covering, drape a blanket over it, measure again, differences?

this CD has 29 1/3 octave test tones. (I could help you find an inexpensive copy)

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SPL Meter with tripod mounting hole (many do not have the tripod hole)

You just need answers relative to the next, not perfect calibration, these inexpensive meters work well.

 

shooter41

correct, if you have no center speaker, you have to send center to FL & FR, thus the AVR needs to make it’s own psuedo-surround with phantom center,

I am simply encouraging people to try even a SMALL center, it doesn’t take much, as a matter of fact it is important to avoid too much center, 

Often my TV starts in some pseudo-surround, I don’t know who, when, where, but if I change to ’DIRECT", it may change to 2 channel and actually sound better. The Industry thinks we want ALL our speakers working all the time, like the weird stretch that makes basketball players look like football players, playing with a weird oval ball.

shooter41
richardbrand

I understand how your processors and you SOLVE the lack of a center channel speaker.

IF possible, try a small center channel rather than skipping it, that is my advice to anyone following. 

After so many years of prioritizing and enjoying excellent 2 channel imaging in my dedicated listening system, and many years of improving TV sound, (starting with old CRTs I hot wired decent speakers to, the fidelity was always there), I am very sensitive to sound that is erroneously off-center of a visual image, especially dialog meant to be centered, or off-center dialog not originating from the correct location.

A common issue is a TV above a fireplace, no center speaker. My wife and sister-in-law house/pet sit for many wealthy people, and I check out the home theaters of many of them. I shake my head at the poor sound so many have.

My Small 5.1 Home Theater

I am left handed and sit on the left end of the sofa (some but not far off center), near my end table, coffee warmer, coaster, kleenex, box of remotes, left side wall ....

Donna, right handed, is at the right end, her coffee warmer ... no right wall. No one normally sits, or needs to sit dead center in my setup due to two factors

 

1. DBX Soundfield 100 Cross Pattern Dispersion is designed to create a WIDE phantom center image of any 2 channel material (I often 'force' 2 channel),

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2. using a Center Channel Speaker (even a small one) physically anchors the center to the center of the image no matter where you sit, because if you rely on Phantom Center, and you sit off-center, it is not going to work as well as sound ORIGINATING from the center. Off-center dialog will have some Phantom Off-Center mix by the originators, which assumes a center speaker,

I am happier with the smaller Jamo, the Klipsch was just too efficient, even after software adjustments

 

In my office, 2 channel, all center Phantom, I re-configured everything so I could sit dead center for the 1st time ever.