First Sound compared to Supratek, VAC, or Audio No

That's really a matter of match to your cartridge, not to the First Sound.

Audiofankj... you asked about phono amps. I use the ARC PH3SE which works very well with the First Sound. I have had several phono amps, but have only used the ARC with the First Sound. I would suggest that any high end phono amp will mate well with this pre.

Addition to my post above.... the First Sound and ARC PH3SE phono with stock tubes was a easy winner vs. the Supratek Syrah ( has a very good built-in phono ). This comination does cost more that the Supratek, so I still place the Supratek as the best value ( with rolled tubes). But, for overall sound, dynamics, excellent tonal balance ( especially voice) & soundstage, this is a very nice combination.

I wasn't a fan of the VAC standard--it was easily bested by VTL 5.5 and Cary SLP 98 when i A/Bd them all one day.

That said, i really want to try the new Phi integrated--but ouch! the price!

The VAC REN is fantastic - agree completely with Bhouser. Bested a lot of preamps that I listened to, albeit not the ones listed above - Kevin, is one of the best if not the best in highend audio to deal with. He is open and honest - always willing to explain his product. He takes tremendous pride in his equipment and it is reflected in his work. While expensive, I have found that it will "get you off the merry go ground" and thus less expensive in the long run. Also, my experience has been that his designs "last a lot longer" in terms of overall improvements in the industry. What I mean is....you will not be longing for another upgrade for a longggg time. So, in essence you get more value from the purchase.