Favorite Speakers at RMAF


Ridge Street Audio Sason LTD/SI:

Wow! What can I say about these beautifully crafted speakers? They completely disappear with wall to wall soundstaging and naturally precise imaging. They are oh so smooth, detailed, and utterly nonfatiguing. They were about the only speaker at the show that I could just relax and listen to hours on end. You just emotionally connect with the music through these transducers. I had Robert of RSA play Somewhere Over The Rainbow/It's A Wonderful World by "IZ" a Hawaiian singer who lost his battle with obesity at a young age. It almost brought me to tears.

They were being riven by all Fi gear including their 20 watt(?) SET amps, DAC, and transformer volume control. All RSA wiring too. I would have loved to hear the Sasons with more power, like the 100 watt Atmasphere MA-1 amps. I had the pleasure of meeting Rhythmace4218 who already owns a pair driven by MA-1. He confided the MA-1 will give the Sasons real bass impact which surpasses a highly respected 300 watt solid state amp.

The upgraded SI version is 5 inches shorter than the standard version because they moved the Xover into the base stands. The stands are now necessarily taller to keep the same overall height. IMHO, the SI version looks much better because they look more proportioned. The older version looked a little pot bellied with the wider base and shorter stands. Just awesome aesthetics.

Let me just add that Robert and Steve are first class acts. They are genuine music guys who are down to earth and easy to talk to. Kudos to both of you.

Podium 0.5 Speakers:

I must admit I was sadly disappointed with the sound of the their flagship P1 speakers at the '97 RMAF. It's treble was very grainy and irritating, and the presentation just didn't seemed right. This year their smallest speaker produced some of the best sound at the show. It was hooked up to some very expensive electronics (Art Audio Jota 22 watts? at $18k, Esoteric digital, Memory player, etc). But the synergy was there in spades. The presentation was similar to the Sason's, but slighty cooler sound with wonderful imaging and staging. Because they are crossoverless, the have a very coherent sound - as coherent as the Sasons. Piano and vocals sounded natural as one can hope for. Bass was very tuneful - stand up bass was in your room real, but lacked the deep extension of cones. But what do you expect from a panel speaker? But there was one quality that bothered me. The treble was still ever so slightly grainy and irritating. I'm not sure if I could listen to these for hours on end if the music contained a lot of treble energy. These speakers can still draw you into the music like the Sasons. Overall, these were my second favorite. And the price is still reasonable at $6k (but going up to $8k in couple of months) in terms of performance, but not really in terms of aesthetics and build quality. The Sasons take top honor for that IMO. Peter, the dealer/distributor for these speakers, was a real gent.

Sorry, these were the only two speakers that really stood out in the end for me. I heard the mega expensive speakers from Acapella and Lansche (both using ion tweeters), YG acoustics, Hansen, etc. None of them could emotionally draw me into the music like the Sason and Podium.
dracule1

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Jfz, I agree with much of what you said. I can't see how anyone could evaluate an upstream component at a show. Perhaps I should have titled my post "My favorite SYSTEM at RMAF".
Audiofeil, have you actually listened to these speakers instead of relying on "highly regarded" participants (whatever that means)? Have you ever seen these speakers in real life instead of pictures? If you were there, you would understand what I was talking about.
Jfz, good question. The speaker is the final common pathway so I can only make somewhat of a valid assessment of the speaker, not the upstream components. I can't make any real valid assessment of the upstream components unless I already know how the speaker sounds (ie, something I own and listen to). Eventhen, room interaction screws things up. It's a mess in reality.
Trelja, everyone has their set point for value. Obviously, I think Sasons are high value given the amount of manual work and quality of the components that goes into making a pair.

I thought the Ultra Fi 20 watt SETs were not the best to show off the Sasons low bass - "foundation of music" as you put it. The Sasons I am told by Robert, Steve and Sason owners will go down to the low 30s. But I would have to hear that for myself.

I don't think their cabinet is their only "raison d'etre". Seems like a lot of thought and work went into the crossover parts, wiring, speaker/cable interface, and customized drivers as well.

Yea, I agree with you about the velvet rope thing. But I think the electronic did not belong to RSA and the speakers were Roberts personal pair. I touched the speakers but Robert has no problem with that.

Sound and musical taste is a highly personal matter. For me, the Sasons and Podiums just let me listen to the music and enjoy. Unfortunately, I couldn't say that for Acapella, YG Acoustics, Scaena, etc... hi fi explatives galore like "You can hear that bell way off to the side!, but couldnt enjoy the music through them.
Sorry Robert, I stand corrected about the amps. Getting Fi and Ultra Fi mixed up. 12 and not 20 watts - I'm a little numerically dyslexic.
Jfz, "final common pathway". Think of your speaker as the faucet in your home and the water comming from it is the sound. The water travels from the cloud, to the mountains, gets collected in multiple steams, rivers, to the aquaduct, to the reservoir, to the treatment plant...to your home faucet. Like the faucet, speakers are where the final music (water) comes out of. So it's hard to judge how upstream component sounds - it's like trying to determine where the water came from upstream. All you hear is the speaker in the end, so that's what I can make a valid assessment, unless like I said I already know the sound of the speakers beforehand from personal experience. Sorry, but that's the best crappy analogy I can come up with.
To put things into perspective, let's compare the Sason to another highly regarded 2 way speaker - the Magico Mini. I have heard these speakers at a dealer in Massachusetts within a dedicated treated 2 channel audio room (cost for the room alone topped $200k) with some of the most expensive electronics known to man (Boulder, Spectral, Nagra, etc). The Magico Mini has impeccable build quality, but the sound IMO was not as open and natural as the Sason. Now they cost almost 3x the cost of the Sason SI. Obviously, a valid comparison is a side by side shootout using the same electronics, but very few are able to do that.
Mapman, what you say may be true. But I don't think lots of speakers will sound as good as the Sasons - not in my 23+ years in this hobby. Synergy is very important, but very difficult to achieve by the consumer unless he/she has the cash to try many combinations. My last speaker was purchased based on audition at the '04 Stereophile Show in NY. It was the Hyperion 938 which I love to this day. It sounded great when I set them up in my home - different room and electronics. A speaker that is not so finicky in set up will sound good in most rooms and gives credit to its designer.

What made them spectacular? Simple. It was the most enjoyable listenng session I had in a long time. So it's highly personal.
Naw..differences in opinion doesn't bother me much. But people who form opinions on components based on what others say and not having heard them themselves do bother me.
Macojack, I happen to stop by the Oswald room. Very unique lookin huge horn speakers, but I liked the sound. I was clear and dynamic but obviously needed a bigger room for the sound to open up. They sounded much more natural than the AvantGarde at the show. I think Jonathan (or whoever was showing off the Oswalds) went to the AvantGarde room to listen. When asked by the AvantGarde people what he thought about them, I think he answered "they sound interesting". The huge Acapella sounded bloated in the bass.
Atmasphere (Ralph?)

Just thought I let you know. Robert of RSAD says MA-1 driving the Sasons is the best he's heard from his speakers. Do you do custom finishes on your amps? The look is a little too industrial for me.
Emailists, I did hear that system on two occasions, both times analogue sources. Sounded very natural, warm and smooth but lacked imaging and staging. Considering all the god awful expensive electronics (Wavac, Continuum, etc), I expected a much more but I think it needed a much bigger room. The plasma tweeter does emit a lot of heat - the speakers are ventillated at the top where the tweeter sits.
Hmm...So a guy who's into cars shouldn't care about how his car looks as long as it goes fast? So lets stick a Porche twin turbo engine into a Pinto and call it a Porche. Not many will buy it, right? A component's aesthetic design is an art, and I can appreciate fine art. Performance comes first, but appearance is important to me too.
I'm sure Ralph wouldn't mind adding some bling bling to his amps, like one of those auto-rotating rims you see on those pimped out Cadillac Escalades :)
Hi Ralph,

Seriously, I would like to see custom automotive paint for the black part of the chassis on the MA-1s and chromed finish for the polished metal part of the amp. How much would this add Ralph?
Thanks. When I audition the Sasons with the MA-1s at RSA next month, I will make a decision on the amps.