I thought the new Arcams were just good marketing until I listened to the A85. Sweet, clean, light, and so very nice. Pick up Murray Perahia playing Bach Keyboard Concertos, or Vaughn Williams "Sea Symphony" and see if it does not move you. Or even W. Nelson's "The Great Divide" and see if his voice does not float in the room. I thnk these Arcams are one of the better deals right now. However, the Magnum Dynalab 208 is a sunset walk on a beach if you like that kinda stuff. The Mark Levinson 383 is confidence incarnate. I owned the Krell 300i for awhile and enjoyed it though I never felt it really did justice to some of my favorite classical works, but very organic nevertheless. All these were listend to with Infinity 4.1t speakers and a Sony CE775 player.