Favorite 300B: Sophia vs KR



Which do you prefer; S.E.T. Princess 300B Carbon Plate or KR 300B WE Clone?

I've only experienced NOS 40's/50's WE so my expectations are pretty high. Which do you think captures the essence of the WE most closely? I'm trying to keep the cost down as much as possible so EAT is not an option, as much as I was blown away by their KT88. I considered current WE but they're not in production until Spring 2011.

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Google been tried and something in there, but what exactly, not sure, so, we need an real Japanese or someone who can translate correctly here, imo.

Or, maybe if everyone tries, we will find something, who knows:-)))

The internal construction will remain the same, but they are talking about improvements with new release, so, whatever that is, must be even better than now, right?
Here is it

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ja&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.takatsuki-denki.co.jp%2Fpdf%2FTA-300B_TA-274B_pressrelease120308.pdf
Charles1dad, same person was telling the same the guy I based my story on, so, its true:-(

Let us know pls.

Got RP's already?
Phaelon, congrats! What type of KR's you got, present production WE bottle type? Any impressions so far?

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Charles1dad, many thanks for your impressions, like your way to keep last 5% for the future:-)))
I believe there are differ auto-bias circuits around, also how and what exactly they do, is not the same.
Markus1299

Always test tubes before using them in your amp. Ones, I tried to use 300B TJ Full globe/mesh, what ever they called, and this cost me an USD60 fuse and I am lucky that it was fuse only. Never again.
Simmo2741

Would you be so kind to let us know your earlier impressions please, Takatsuki vs WE's I mean.

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Simmo2741

Thank you very much for your impressions, great 300B's collection!
I know about that magic feeling you have been describing, this is exactly what draw me away from tubes I mentioned on this thread, they just don't have that and didnt sound natural in my system.

Anyway, will be nice to read more of your posts later.

Enjoy!

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Sorry and with all respect guys, but who needs the tubes that have to be burned for 500-800 hours, are you kidding me? How many hours these tubes have left then? If they have 2000-3000 ( just an indication ) hours to live in total, well, 800 hours is way to long, imo.

Phaelon,

Many thanks for your post, this may change my mind about them, cos my pair have had 100+ hours only, however I don't believe that all feedbacks/reviews that been wrote about RP's, were based on pairs with that long break in, so, the question is, what kind of reviews are they then?

And for Sophia guys, they should mention that on their website, imo

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Charles1dad

Don't get me wrong, this thread is one of the best you can come across these days anyway and I am glad folks have the ability to share some of their collections I done have as well. How many people can compare differ 300Bs? Most of the guys just buy one brand available today and that's it, so, how possible for them to know? It's very expensive, but also very tricky, cos if you don't buy from trusty source, you can get lots of troubles, especially used.

Actually, I was referring to commercial reviews and not the one that been posted up here.

There is an possibility that I am going to try RP's again, but I am not sure yet.

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Gsm18439

I know of 2 manufacturers only who were open about the lifespan of their tubes and these are WE and AVVT. Not sure about WE's, but AVVT stated 40.000 hours.
From my own experience I know only 2 types of tubes that sounded freaking good, while they tested poor.

1 NOS Tung Sol 6550 Black Smooth plates

2 NOS GEC KT88

I owned quads from both at the same time and in each quad was 1 tube that tested poor, but they sounded great. How possible? Don’t know, it's all beyond me, probably the quality is so high that they still perform until they really die.

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Auntjenof2

Pity you are selling the beautiful AVVT's as well, cos after 100 hours they will open up very nicely and will sound much better.
This thread become sleepy, so , I thought, maby there are some news/impressions out there...

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Hi Charles1dad

Yes, still use them, they are one of the best out there, build like a tank and if you have the correct production year, something like after 1999?, they must be problem free, however, they still tubes after all and can stop working just like that anyway and this is the biggest problem, if you compare to present production, you can't get replacement pair, unless you bought from dealer and they are dead within the warranty term, but like I said, they are running out soon, so, dead is dead:-(

I own KR Tubular type as well, which are AVVT made, but KR branded, and I am bit spare on 32B's as they will be harder to get pretty soon.

I think Takatsuki will be more delicate / bloomy vs 32B's, which are linear.

Regarding amp been used. I am convinced that in some amps tubes do not make that huge difference as in my Cary for example. The one I am talking about is Zanden 7000, which no longer made, but Royal Sophia's were great there, while in my Cary they were so so, if not less. Actually, AVVT's and KR's I own sound best in my Cary and if I had the free cash, I would buy another pair of 32B's

Let us know about AVVT vs Takatsuki's please.

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@Watersidedave

Have you talked to Sophia and what's their comment?

It looks like mega failure regarding quality control, can't be any differ.

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