“Faithful to the recording”


I despise when reviewers use those words in describing a piece of equipment unless they were, quite literally, at the recording.  Once those words are used, I pretty much stop reading since IMO the reviewer is full of BS.

Your thoughts?

And what key word(s) or phrases cause you to stop reading?

 

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Showing 5 responses by mahgister

I enjoy too much your deepful well expressed humorful posts to dare answering them most of the times, if at least i could write as well as you about my thoughts and feelings...

But i can say in plain simple English that i like you asvjerry...

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The paradox was i entered in this world more deeply than imagined with acoustic studies but the prime motive was to quit it soon  on the wing of music, but in the meantime i fell in love with this world beauty too...

Ockham’s razor is a tool for the thinking linear mind expressing itself in a DISCOURSE about a chosen something...

For the silent mind contemplating a plant, a room acoustic or the distribution of prime numbers, Ockham’s razor is useless... We use it to SAY something meaningful yes , to rationalize our expression in a linear way toward a conclusion about an aspect of reality, it is not a way to understand reality but to reduce it to a limited expression...

All great discoverers in science never know often why they arrive at some conclusion, they rationalyse it AFTER the fact...

The knot survived Alexender gesture, it is called topological field studies in mathematics...And no one there cut a knot before analysing it completely... 😁😊

 

«My heart is a gordian knot»-Groucho Marx 🤓

«My love is the Alexander sword brother»-Harpo Marx

 

Ockham’s razor takes care of most Gordian knots.

Name someone in the audio community that think like me that the most important factor of satisfaction is not upgrading but acoustic...I want to read him...I never read one or discover one, save some acousticians.......

It is a call for help from myself to everyone...

Thanks in advance...

 

 

From the first acoustic lived event where any seat give another perspective on the lived acoustic event, we have AFTER the independant recording process who "manipulate" by INEVITABLE choices trade-off process this acoustic event which is no more the original one now but a package of analog/digital information who gives another potential acoustic perspective of his own...

And we have the second acoustic event in YOUR ROOM, where you listen THROUGH your room acoustic settings and geography this TRANSFORMED and and TRANSLATED potential perspectival event into an actual one...

The mythology of the high fidelity "reproduction" instead of a "translated" acoustic analog/digital information INTO the acoustic language of your room comes from the Gear marketing for DECADES ....And come from the forgetfulness of the essental acoustic role in the listener perception and experience...

Nobody has ever listen to his system/speakers DIRECTLY , we listen to the system/speakers/room...

What is an acoustic translation ? The acoustic factor in the lived event, which vary with each seat in the theater, for example the timbre perception, will be TRANSLATED in another experience of timbre perception by virtue of the SPECIFIC acoustic properties of your room...

It will be the same for the listener envelopment factor/sound source width ratio or LV/ASW experienced in a specific seat in the theater and after that translated in your room specific acoustic content and perceived very differently by you than if you were seating in a specific location in the theater...

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To repeat the evidence: no system/ speakers can beat the room alone by itself... Minimal Acoustic treatment and mechanical control must be used to improve the listening experience and put the gear to his peak level working potential...

Generally a well treated and mechanically controlled room is a huge upgrade over a nude room, more than most upgrades which are available for the wallet of each of us...

Then instead of repeating the market gear publicity it is better to read about acoustic.... 😁😊

There is no "original" unique lived event, only many acoustic perspectives on it from the chosen seat of a listener in the theater to the seat in your room...Then there is no "reproduction" only an acoustic translation...

 

Isn’t the recording the information contained on the media?

If so, then any gear that sucks it up and reproduces it without introducing audible "coloration" (however defined), distortion or any number of other unwanted artifacts?

"Faithful to a recording"means nothing...or almost nothing at best.... 😁😊

i agree...

But there is a misconception in all audio...

Some claim that an ideal speaker set for example COULD be faithful to the recording...

This is also meaningless, not because there is no perfect speakers, but because these alleged perfect speakers must be located in a SPECIFIC IMPERFECT room with his acoustic content and acoustic geography...

The goal in audio is the creation/translation of this music/sound from one acoustical context, which is the RELATIVE perspective of the recording process on a lived event, to be translated in the psycho-acoustic geography of your room which is also a relative acoustic and esthetic perspective from and on the recording event ....

All this meaningless descriptions about absolute fidelity and "reproduction" instead of the more correct TRANSLATION word, come from the gear market publicity and sellers(reviewers)..,

And also from the forgetfulness that between the specific trade-off choices during recording process, there is TWO acoustic perspectives, the specific perspective of a listener seating at the original lived event, and the perspective of the listener with the play back gear in relation with his specific room and ears...

Then this misconception about being " faithful to the recording" it did not come from acoustic experience for sure , but from gear sellers...

And the desesperate pursuit toward some new piece of gear allegedly able to be more "faithful to the recording" erase the importance of room acoustic out of the equation at worst and at best put it in the secondary position completely, a minor necessity instead of the center of the experience itself, which it is...

Selling is not always educating....it is also unvolontarily deception of ourself to begin with....