Establishing a common analog listening bias

Dertonarm
I think your concept is a good one ,you mentioned this on another thread and I for one would participate.

I'm thinking out loud, a possible fly in the ointment....If it gets off the ground I'm confident you will hear from those with original first release or a better re-pressing that smokes the currant re-issue used for evaluation.
This will have to be established first.

I see already Viridian has brought this point up.

Dertonarm
Now that you clarified your point.

My picks are all available ,exceptional music and a job well done with these re-issues.

Ella Fitzgerald "Clap Hands Here Comes Charlie" Classic Records

Harry Belafonte "At Carnegie Hall" double Lp set Classic Records

Sarah Vaughn "Sarah Vaughn" mono Speakers Corner

Axel, Noticing this electronic hue on the vocals on So Long So Wrong was a slight disappointment and a minor nit pick. I didn't listen deeper to what else could be wrong on the recording,sat back and just enjoyed the music.

With Alison Krauss and Union Station their music is new to me and the handful of times I've played the two Lp sets,
I feel their live Lp is the better of the two, recording wise.
She's so sweet.

Natural sounding vocals with little to no artifacts attached for me is of paramount importance on a recording.
"The illustion of, in the room with you kind"

To add from my suggestions above , another one that stands out that is readily available and inexpensive is Joan Baez "Diamonds and Rust"

I never did care for Joan's music until I heard this A&M release through a pair of Quad 63's some 25 plus years ago.

The original release was exceptionally well recorded and the current re-issue is it's equal.
Great band and good music.

Alison Krauss "So Long so Wrong" Good music, talented band, good recording however the studio mucked with the vocals too much.

Their "Live" release has far more natural sounding vocals and is equally entertaining and well recorded. Mobil Fidelity

Joe Williams "Me and The Blues" Speakers Corner , check this one out.

Nat Cole "After Midnight" mono , Pure Pleasure...in deed it is.

Hi Axel, Without getting into a forensic analyst of why these modern day engineers have to do this,knowingly or unknowingly simply put this other wise very good Lp stands out a slight electronic hue that's attached to all of the vocals.
It's not overly distracting for me however too bad it's there, Alisons voice is so sweet.

If you can compare the Live Lp to this studio mix,it does present vocals far more natural, for a modern day recording that is.

Halcro your description of what you hear off Belafonte's long time and highly regarded performance is totally mystifying.

"Voices and instruments undemanding though well recorded""

"Audience is simply an ill defined and sometimes a distorted screech of nebulous applause"

WHAT!

This excellent R.C.A. recording has been known as such among music enthuses for "decades"....

Wheather your a fan of Belafonte or not, the fact remains this particular recording is superb with NONE of the discribed issues above....None.

I can only guess why Halcro would say what he did, most likey a poor pressing for sure.

Anyone with a good pressing vintage or re-issue will tell you the same.
If your system can't handle this recording you need to make adjustments and or get a good pressing.

Good grief.

Henry, No sir you did not offend me, if that's what you hear from your pressing then that's what you hear.

As you know what Dertnarm is after is current and readily available pressings for anyone interested in participating.

My RCA pressings of Belafonte Live are not. The most recent being Classic Records 45 RPM single side box set from a couple of years back and a fairly decent early original pressing.

None of what you and Axel heard on your copies exist on mine.
The opening introduction that leads into Darlin'Cora the audience clapping is distinct and well rendered you immediately get a sense of the size of Cargenie.

The horn section puts a quick end to the clapping then the concert begins.
No where from the intro to the final of the concert do I hear anything remotely to which you described.
All and all the music is vibrant and entertaining

There are many things to be heard that the mics picked up during this concert, from the guy near the stage with some sort of bronchial problems ,subway to a transport outside going through his gears.
Its all there whether you want to hear it or not, it's live.

The current and still available double Lp re-issued by Classic Records is a fairly decent copy.
Compared to a very good pressing on a scale of 1 to 10, I would rate this currently available copy a 6.5 out of 10.Ten being the good pressing.

The intro is a bit washy,the horn section is a tad bright.
Belafontes vocals lack dynamics through out.
More so apparent on the track "John Henry" also there are portions where his voice is a tad harsh on this particular track.

Over all the musical flow of things are a little dull compared to a good pressing.
I borrowed this current issue yesterday to bring this information here.

For decades it's pretty much common knowledge this rare live RCA Victor recording is superb through and through.
However this is not what this thread is about.

Agree with Dave Brubeck Quartet "Time Out" Classic Records

I think Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers deserve a mention "Moanin" mono Classic Records.

We need a bit more Rock...