Esoteric DV-50: Any cdp's Significantly better?


Is there are anyone out there who has compared the Esoteric DV-50 to a number of dedicated red book only players (or other universal's) and found one that is SIGNIFICANTLY better?

I stress significantly because in my humble opinion the redbook playback (if comparison unit is just a cd cd player only )must be significantly better to justify losing DVD-A, SACD and DVD-Video capability.

I keep hearing there are better one box solutions and being a die hard 2 channel fan I would sell my DV-50 if I found a player in the same price range that sounds significantly better. But every time I do an AB comparision to other well respected units the DV-50 has slayed each and every one.

So far, it has eaten the lunch of the Classe CDP-10, Ayre CX-7, Linn Ikemi, Cairn Fog Vers. 2, Cary 306/300, Arcam DV 27A and CD 33T, Myryad CD 600, etc. It even betters a Sony SCD 777ES/MF Tri-Vista 21 transport/dac combo that I previously owned. I'm only comparing the DV-50 to single box cd or universal players, but I just wanted to mention the Sony/MF combo. I'm sure there are some dac/transport combo's that will handily beat the DV 50.

Some may say that the DV 50 should beat all the above because the of price point ($5,500 vs. average price of $3,000 for the above players). But I disagree since conventional wisdom says that stand alone players (especially with the pedigree of those mentioned above) should produce better redbook than a universal player trying to be a jack of all trades. Only the DV 27A does video plus audio. By the way, I was very impressed with the 27A as just a cd player. Of all the above I would say the Ayre was the best.

Next on my list is the Electrocompaniet EMC 1UP and the Resolution Audio Opus 21. However, I must tell you I am really impressed with the DV 50 and all the great reviews are absolutely true. I've noticed that many people who are using it or comparing to other players are using the RCA analog outs instead of the balanced outs. There is a significant improvement in sound if you use the balanced outs and I'm only interested in hearing comments from people who have compared it against other players using the balanced outs on the DV-50.

My system components are as follows:

B&W N803's speakers & HTM-1 center
Cary Cinema 5 (5 x 200) amp
Anthem D1 Statement pre/pro
Esoteric DV 50
Acoustic Zen Satori Shotgun speaker wire
Nirvana SX balanced interconnects from DV-50 to Anthem
Acoustic Zen Matrix reference II interconnects from D1 to Cary
No after market power cords or isolation equipment

My system sounds great! Those who comment please make sure to specify what specific improvements you heard over the DV 50 and what cdp were you comparing it against.

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Guidocorona writes:
Springbock10, yours is the $64B question. Moded units are not balanced, except for one APL3910 version which has XLR active outputs. Not a classic balanced design with duplicate circuitry, though: the 'balance' signal is created through phase splitting.
Some other modded units are balanced. Rare - but they are out there.

I believe that Allen Wright does have a balanced option for the mods he does to the VC24/VC24+ digital filter chip equipped Sonys (SCD-1, SCD-777, SCD-555, SCD-C333, DVP-S9000) and this is a significant extra cost (almost double), as there are many more components - its a double module. I am sure this is a fully differential stage - can't imagine Allen taking a shortcut. I know he was offering this at one stage, but have not checked his web site to see if he still has this option.

My XA777ES, modified by Ric Schultz, has a fully balanced output stage; multichannel capability has been disabled.

I would not be surprised if Kyle of Reference Audio Mods has not built a modified Marantz or something with balanced outputs using the Audio Consulting traffos, but I am not certain by any means.

Regards,
Diw writes:
My problem with all these mods is that they do not upgrade the multichannel portion of the player
I had Ric Schultz modify my Sony XA777ES and discarded multi-channel in the process. I have no interest in that form of sound reproduction. And as Tbg says, there is not much room in some of these units - particularly that Sony.

If the modifier is not interested in surround sound, and you are, perhaps your choice of modifier is wrong.

Regards,