Esoteric DV-50: Any cdp's Significantly better?


Is there are anyone out there who has compared the Esoteric DV-50 to a number of dedicated red book only players (or other universal's) and found one that is SIGNIFICANTLY better?

I stress significantly because in my humble opinion the redbook playback (if comparison unit is just a cd cd player only )must be significantly better to justify losing DVD-A, SACD and DVD-Video capability.

I keep hearing there are better one box solutions and being a die hard 2 channel fan I would sell my DV-50 if I found a player in the same price range that sounds significantly better. But every time I do an AB comparision to other well respected units the DV-50 has slayed each and every one.

So far, it has eaten the lunch of the Classe CDP-10, Ayre CX-7, Linn Ikemi, Cairn Fog Vers. 2, Cary 306/300, Arcam DV 27A and CD 33T, Myryad CD 600, etc. It even betters a Sony SCD 777ES/MF Tri-Vista 21 transport/dac combo that I previously owned. I'm only comparing the DV-50 to single box cd or universal players, but I just wanted to mention the Sony/MF combo. I'm sure there are some dac/transport combo's that will handily beat the DV 50.

Some may say that the DV 50 should beat all the above because the of price point ($5,500 vs. average price of $3,000 for the above players). But I disagree since conventional wisdom says that stand alone players (especially with the pedigree of those mentioned above) should produce better redbook than a universal player trying to be a jack of all trades. Only the DV 27A does video plus audio. By the way, I was very impressed with the 27A as just a cd player. Of all the above I would say the Ayre was the best.

Next on my list is the Electrocompaniet EMC 1UP and the Resolution Audio Opus 21. However, I must tell you I am really impressed with the DV 50 and all the great reviews are absolutely true. I've noticed that many people who are using it or comparing to other players are using the RCA analog outs instead of the balanced outs. There is a significant improvement in sound if you use the balanced outs and I'm only interested in hearing comments from people who have compared it against other players using the balanced outs on the DV-50.

My system components are as follows:

B&W N803's speakers & HTM-1 center
Cary Cinema 5 (5 x 200) amp
Anthem D1 Statement pre/pro
Esoteric DV 50
Acoustic Zen Satori Shotgun speaker wire
Nirvana SX balanced interconnects from DV-50 to Anthem
Acoustic Zen Matrix reference II interconnects from D1 to Cary
No after market power cords or isolation equipment

My system sounds great! Those who comment please make sure to specify what specific improvements you heard over the DV 50 and what cdp were you comparing it against.

AVGURU
avguru

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This digital forum to promote APLHIFI.
As a modifier how plays by the rules and does not promote
myself, I am mad as hell. Where are the moderators?
I could never get away with this on Audio Asylum.
Audiogon should not be used to promote any modifier at the
expense of other modifiers. Dan Wright of Modwright, Ric
Schultz of EVS and Kyle Takenaga of RAM agree with me.
APLHIFI must be made to play by the rules.
Let Alex post ads if he wants to promote his business.

Richard Kern
Audiomod
My post is four years old and was made before I learned
the forum rules. You only found one post of mine. How
many thousands of posts are from Alex and his followers?
You are all missing the point. I will not conduct myself
on this forum like Alex and his followers. It is not
uncommon for modifiers to use paid shills to post glowing
reviews of products on these pages, a practice I have never
used and never will. I have talked to other modifiers who
have heard Alex's work and it is good, but no better then
any other modifiers work. To me you are all fools!
Alex is profiting for your sheepish stupidity.
As I said before, if Alex wants to promote his business
let him post ad's on Audiogon.
I have said all I care to on this subject. If what I have
said makes no sense to anyone, then what more can I say?
I will let other modifiers chime in, if they have the guts!
If they don't, then I leave the sheep to their shepard, Alex.

Richard Kern
Audiomod
Kyle is right on! Alex is unprofessional and arrogant
and so are his followers, like you. Or should I say
stooge? How much is Alex paying you to front for him?
Or did he give you a free mod? You sure are loyal to him.
I wonder why? None of my customers are this loyal, but
then I don't buy their loyalty like Alex does.
I am writing this just in case my last post was
misunderstood. It was directed to 711smilin not Flye.
Kyle is an honest man and right on the mark when it comes to Alex.
To Avguru, 711smilin and all of the posters on this site.
I will try to make this post short and sweet.

I have many inside the industry sources who inform me that
Alex is giving sweet heart deals (on modified players) to
many on this forum in exchange for positive posting and
promotion of his mods.

The reason I (and other honest modifiers) wont join these
prearranged listening sessions (or post on this thread)
is we know they are run by the Alex promoters and that we
would therefore have no fair hearing.

I have no problem with someone who honestly admits to
being a supporter of Alex, but to cover up this shilling
with BS about "Just wanting to have fun and discover the
best player possible" insults my intelligence and those on
this forum.
Give it up boy's, you have been unmasked!