Esoteric DV-50: Any cdp's Significantly better?


Is there are anyone out there who has compared the Esoteric DV-50 to a number of dedicated red book only players (or other universal's) and found one that is SIGNIFICANTLY better?

I stress significantly because in my humble opinion the redbook playback (if comparison unit is just a cd cd player only )must be significantly better to justify losing DVD-A, SACD and DVD-Video capability.

I keep hearing there are better one box solutions and being a die hard 2 channel fan I would sell my DV-50 if I found a player in the same price range that sounds significantly better. But every time I do an AB comparision to other well respected units the DV-50 has slayed each and every one.

So far, it has eaten the lunch of the Classe CDP-10, Ayre CX-7, Linn Ikemi, Cairn Fog Vers. 2, Cary 306/300, Arcam DV 27A and CD 33T, Myryad CD 600, etc. It even betters a Sony SCD 777ES/MF Tri-Vista 21 transport/dac combo that I previously owned. I'm only comparing the DV-50 to single box cd or universal players, but I just wanted to mention the Sony/MF combo. I'm sure there are some dac/transport combo's that will handily beat the DV 50.

Some may say that the DV 50 should beat all the above because the of price point ($5,500 vs. average price of $3,000 for the above players). But I disagree since conventional wisdom says that stand alone players (especially with the pedigree of those mentioned above) should produce better redbook than a universal player trying to be a jack of all trades. Only the DV 27A does video plus audio. By the way, I was very impressed with the 27A as just a cd player. Of all the above I would say the Ayre was the best.

Next on my list is the Electrocompaniet EMC 1UP and the Resolution Audio Opus 21. However, I must tell you I am really impressed with the DV 50 and all the great reviews are absolutely true. I've noticed that many people who are using it or comparing to other players are using the RCA analog outs instead of the balanced outs. There is a significant improvement in sound if you use the balanced outs and I'm only interested in hearing comments from people who have compared it against other players using the balanced outs on the DV-50.

My system components are as follows:

B&W N803's speakers & HTM-1 center
Cary Cinema 5 (5 x 200) amp
Anthem D1 Statement pre/pro
Esoteric DV 50
Acoustic Zen Satori Shotgun speaker wire
Nirvana SX balanced interconnects from DV-50 to Anthem
Acoustic Zen Matrix reference II interconnects from D1 to Cary
No after market power cords or isolation equipment

My system sounds great! Those who comment please make sure to specify what specific improvements you heard over the DV 50 and what cdp were you comparing it against.

AVGURU
avguru

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Can any of you guys provide some meaningful commentary about the similiarities, contrasts and preferences between the Exemplar 3910, the APL 3910 and the Modwright 9000ES (I'm actually considering the 999ES)? Your first hand listening experiences speak volumes!

I'm currently running an Audio Aero 24/192k DAC, so if you have any opinions on it vs. these other three, I would be interested in hearing about that as well.

Thanks for all your digitial efforts!
Mark - Northbrook, IL
I can join you guys on the 19th if there's a spot available. I can add the latest Audio Aero 24/192 DAC to the mix if there is any interest to hear it. Anyways, I am certainly interested in the performance of the modded units if nothing else. Hey Brian, how big is your "sweet spot"??!

Mark
Northbrook
AVGuru, unfortunately, I will not be available on Saturday to partake. I will be in San Antonio until Friday, 12/17.

I will plan to join you guys on 12/19 though, so count me in with the Audio Aero Dac (along with Stereovox HDXV and VH Pulsar Gold Nextgen digital cables).

Mark
OK by me AVGURU...I'm flexible on date, time, and place. You name it.

Too bad we don't have a moderator who would oversee connectivity of players in the respective system so that we don't have any biases or preconceived notions of whats playing, driving our opinions. I'd really not want to know what's playing until we were done.
Hey AVGuru, Jayctoy,

Anything happening this weekend? Haven't heard from you guys.
Hey folks, just wanted to let you know that I have spent time with AVGuru and Jayctoy over the last few weeks listening to their systems, comparing notes, talking about the different "modded" players and such. These guys are class acts!

I currently have the Audio Aero DAC, and when AVGuru stuck it in his system, in his room, using the Esoteric DV-50 as a transport, the sound was indeed "magical". Miles never sounded better! We tried the same scenerio in my house, on my system, and while it was decent, it certainly was not magical. Goes to show you how important "system synergy" is.

Pscialli, congrats on your ModWright 999ES. I just decided to go this route as well, after extensive listening to Jayctoy's 9000ES. He was kind enough to let me borrow it for a few days. I felt that in my situation, the 999ES would give me the best sonics for the $$, along with SACD, and multi-channel and video capabilities. Heck, you can pick up a pre-owned 999ES between $500 and $600. Anyways, the redbook on the Jayctoy's 9000ES was quite impressive, maybe just a pinch under the Audio Aero, but the SACD was simply awesome! I look forward to putting the 999ES in my system!

Happy New Year, all!
Hey Peter, yes, I know about that tube. I meant more specifically, which 5687? Tung Sol? Other? Sorry, should have been more specific. Thanks!
AVGuru, glad you jumped back into this mess! I'm all for getting this thread steered back to its original intent, i.e. comparing the various great digital players, modded or otherwise.

Good, bad or indifferent, everyone has their opinions and sonic preferences, and there is no "best". Unfortunately, this thread has become one-sided due to certain individuals, so enough of that and lets get back to meaningful comparisons!
Hey Brian,

I won't be able to make the cut because of scheduling issues, plus my ModWright Sony 999ES is not arriving until the end of the week. Obviously it will need an adequate break-in time to sound its best. My wonderful Audio Aero DAC will also not be present.

You guys have a great shootout! I hope I can join you in the next round.