Equipment Rack

Bobby says "No comment on Mike Green."

Charley and I called Bobby (Robert) Mr. Grump.

You know sometimes you have to step away and see where people land. For myself, I'm a happy listener and always have been. This particular part of the music biz has more than its share of peculiar theories, myths, personalities and home brews. 

A lot of folks over the last several years have asked about me or made up their own versions. Well facts are facts, and the fact is RoomTune sold in 37 countries and here in the states had 650 dealers. We were used in more reviews than almost any high end audio specialty company between 90-97 in the industry. We also supplied more free product to the trade shows (and loved it) than anyone. Fact is when the mom & pop audio stores shut down it was something that shook the hobby forever. Many great companies went under and some of the rats started feeding off of the other rats.

Fact is I'm happy for Bobby. Even though he and I look at life through different glasses and disagree on some past blurred lines, he and his friends have built a pretty cool gig.

history

Robert was a dealer of mine before he started his current company and worked for me for a time. We shared in one idea and one product, a cone. The fact is, the Audiopoint was designed around 1990 by a guy (Brent) who was doing business as AMD (audio machine & design). I liked the sound of that cone and began marketing it. In reviews you will find it was called Michael Green's Audiopoints. Of course we wanted to correct this but I also wanted a different design as the cone at that time was still going through some growing pains sound wise. I think Bobby came on board with RoomTune in the mid to late 90's and when he left MGA/RoomTune took on Audiopoints for his own.

As far as the "rats" comment, people need to decide for themselves how things in a small industry, like this one, evolves from one idea to the next and how designs and designers move on to different adventures as well as the listeners who follow them. Maybe it's not rats as much as it is mice, not sure if they want to share their cheese or keep it to themselves.

The only way to find out is in the privacy of your own private concert hall called your listening room.

as my friend says "enjoy the music" 

I had to go do some listening for a client so the above post is part one, the MG-Bobby story. If your confused, maybe that’s a good thing cause the stories that have been brewed up about that time are pretty stupid. Bottom line is Bobby worked for me then wanted to do his own thing after his time with RoomTune came to an end. Hopefully that clears up the whole Audiopoint thing, as well as why Starsound might seem somewhat like the MGA story.

There are other audio companies that were born from the RoomTune MGA revolution who have their own stories as well, no biggie. It's a fact that most of the companies you see today are usually spin offs in some way or another. No harm in that. I enjoyed being one of the pioneers as well as being a part of other creative ventures.

part 2, another topic really but because my name was mentioned

Part two of my post is about Geoff Kait. Geoff has a Sony Walkman Cassette player with earbuds and spends his time trolling audio forums for the sake of getting nothing more than a rise out of folks. It’s entertaining if you are a little on the warped side, but as is often recommended best to just report geoff and let your mods take care of things.

For the record, I have never had discussions with geoff kait and was only a victim of his trolling on Stereophile. We could have had conversations if he was legitimate but many members pressed him only to come to the same conclusions. This forum will no doubt head down the same path if trolling is allowed. The Stereophile forum which once was alive is a graveyard now sadly do to trolling. nuff said 

Lastly

As I revisited this forum the last two days I see a lot of members asking questions that are not only down my alley, but I specialize in along with as I said earlier what happened to MG. Let me help by saying, if your interested in what I do or why, you should really come to our site and our forum and ask instead of going to other forums and becoming part of high end audio’s National Enquirer. The reason why this industry didn’t see me for a while was because of what I talked about before, the market crash. But the main reason was because I couldn’t stand the audio myth makers standing on every corner telling you your system sucks and why without ever knowing you or your sound. I got tired (bored really) seeing an industry with so much potential choosing to go down paths that had nothing to do with getting good sound. I wasn't alone!

Getting great sound isn’t really that hard and those who can’t get it always seem to get stuck in that revolving door of opinions. It’s a spin and a game that has caused many music lovers to pack their bags and leave. I know because many of them get ahold of us and start from scratch. Those folks your rarely going to see on yours or any other forum. They want nothing to do with the spins and are now happily focused on their music collections, great sound and life.

So why am I here? I’m simply stopping by to let people know MGA/RoomTune is still around and having a blast. I saw some of the stories about me and us on threads here and decided to give a shout out to those folks thinking about tuning and to invite others to come see what tuning is about. I’m not going to hang out but might stop by from time to time if it’s ok.

so that’s it

Have a great weekend and take advantage of this great hobby!

Somehow I’m thinking that people can read for themselves if they wish and come to their own conclusions. I’m not sure their conclusions though will be any different from the one being established here.

It seems to me that Robert’s invite to Geoff to visit with him would be the right way to show the differences or commonalities between Geoff’s thoughts and Robert’s.

also

If Geoff was sincere about tuning concepts he would be coming over to Michael Green’s TuneLand instead of coming to other forums pretending to represent what MG, or anyone else as far as that goes, is actually saying and more importantly doing.

The door is always open for those who wish to explore concepts and designs, but when forums reduce talks to dumbing down talk only, without the actual doing, the whole hobby is reduced to dumbing down.

As Robert invites Geoff to explore for himself so do we at Michael Green Audio. Talk is talk and walk is walk.

Michael Green Audio

Yep, the industry sooner or later will turn to tuning vibrations rather than trying to kill them. When we take a look outside of the high end audio mainstream we see that tuning is the norm. For example musical instruments.

michael green audio

Hi oleschool

Don't worry about Geoff, he hasn't owned an in-room stereo system going on 10 years now according to him. Kind of hard to be credible on audio topics when he doesn't even practice the hobby.

Pretty cool that you get to go from playing your guitars to playing your music collection. Many of my clients are musicians. In some of my stereo stores I would build a tunable listening room on one side and a recording studio on the other. Nothing like comparing apples to apples.

have fun

Michael Green Audio

Hi oleschool

Just got done with my late night listening and saw your reply so thought I would give a shout before I called it a day. Went up to check out Paul's website. "The Journey Begins" is a great page! What an experience for you to be friends with Paul, especially with you being a player yourself. Life is good!

Love the Santa Rosa area and the music Vibe all over that place. Good memories!

What the SNL heck trolling is Geoff talking about now LOL!

I believe geoff is confusing michael green audio with starsound. I can't speak for Starsound but I saw nothing above that resembles michael green audio.

At the same time michael green's tuneland (the techno-zone) is enjoying all the new visitors reading our pages. You guys are more than welcome to become a part of the tuning revolution (as TAS calls us).