End game speakers for Yamaha as2100 under 5k new or used


Hi

Cycled through a few now.  

I love the amp and never want to sell.  Its a tank (50lbs) but only rated at 90w.

I only stream now.  Tidal mqa through a lumin d1.   Sometimes CD.    No other hi res.  So redbook or mqa will be it for me.

I like some detail, but like a more relaxed sound that I know.   1\2 of the time its playing in the room in the background, other 1\2 I sit and listen.  Needs to have ultra wide sweet spot and dig deep into 30hz range or below.

My 'room' is a 1650 sq ft loft with really no walls and 22ft ceilings. Its not just a box, but mostly open.  Room treatments will be an ongoing thing, but I don't want the speaker to sound bad in the interm.   Surprisingly, its actually OK and does not echo, I think due to the material used in the roof.

Anyway.  I want a speaker that first and foremost makes maximum use of these watts.  I don't want to ever think that they may sound way better with 2x or 3x the watts.   But I also don't want them to be so efficient that they will sound the same with 1 watt.  Something just right to use this amp as designed.   This may seem odd, but its required that I find the spec sweet spot here first, to manage my future upgradeitis.  In that sweet spot, I will audition as many as possible.  But I'm not sure what ohm/db that would be? Ish?? 


Used I was thinking acoustic zen creshendo, focal, legacy, tekton(??) or tannoy prestige.   Since I have so much air to move I may be leaning more to larger drivers?

I am not sure I want k horns with this amp....

Any suggestions welcome :)



gravis82

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@grey9hound ahh, I know.  Trying to get past the looks.  If they came in veneer I may have them already.  High on the list at the moment...
These are three awesome suggestions! Thank you.

Of these, I think the tannoy Cheviot or Arden would be amazing, but still very new so will be hard to find used yet at a more comfortable price. That might be the one to wait for...for a few years. I was not aware of these before posting this...

A used Acoustic Zen Crescendo Mk1 might also be in my price wheelhouse.  I will never get to audition though. Any thoughts from those who own a crescendo 1 or 2 and drive it with a high current 100w solid state amp? Would you say it mostly meets my criteria or no?

I have been also noticing the Tyler Acoustic Halo 1. Sealed box, 12 inch woofers soft dome tweeter. I suspect this is a vintage sound? There are literally no reviews on it. Does anyone here own, or have owned, this speaker? He has used trade in’s for sale all the time, so I know people cycle through them...


@soix  the veritys ive been looking for. Good to know.   I am in Canada, they do come up locally occasionally. I would do road trip eventually though once patients wears...


   Dadeleus is another brand I didn’t know of, and look amazing.  Thank you

I am making lists...very expensive lists. 




@mfdamon

new or old?

what dac/digital source are you using?

i will be demoing these next week at a shop in town


Ok.

Taking advice to stick with >90db at 8ohm and >93db at 4ohm, it does narrow it down.

I’m not just canvassing opinions for fun, I will actually listen to these suggestions.

Making the cut with high enough efficiency to be in the Goldilocks zone for the as2100, with a warmer signature and wide sweet spot to be used in a very large room (these were my requirements, so I am assuming recommendations above were aligned with that )... + ...I can tolerate looking at them:


"Vintage" designs with large drivers, used
-Tannoy Cheviot/Arden Legacy
-Klipsch Cornwall
-Spendor SP100


"Traditional" Designs, used
-Tekon Double Impact (eeerm, can Eric do a veneer??, could buy new also)
-Verity Audio Parsifal (8ohm, 89db...on the limit)
-Anything in my $ range by Daedelus
-Anything in my $ range by Coincident


Not listed here, new, but still interested
Focal Aria 948
Opera Quinta SE


Not listed here, used, unicorn
VR-4 Gen ii


Listed right now ’locally’
https://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649453778-alta-audio-lelantos-speakers-massive-bottom-end-fo...
http://alta-audio.com/collection/lelantos/


That should be enough for now. Little bit of focus helps ...