Electrostats


Are electrostats any good for rock and roll?

Man speaker decisions are hard.
audiophanatik

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To play loudly, you have to move a lot of air. To produce low bass, you have to move a lot of air. Most E-stat's by themselves lack both the surface area and the excursion necessary to do either of the above. The only E-stat's that i know of that "might" be able to do this, and this will vary depending on room size, spl levels required and amount of bass that you want, "might be" the big Soundlab's. I have my own "personal doubts" about that though.

As such, most designers resort to "hybrid's" i.e. E-stat mids and tweeters with dynamic ( cone ) woofers. In order for the cones to blend with the e-stat's, they must be very fast, low Q at resonance and low Qms. The result of using a driver / alignment like this is that you have minimal overshoot and ringing and the driver is both very well damped and easily controlled at or near resonance. Any type of poor transient response or "tubbiness" will stick out like a sore thumb. Obviously, special attention to the crossover is required or all the hard work selecting drivers and cabinet design will go out the window due to improper "blending" of the drivers where the two different types of radiators overlap each other.

Even if one can get all of this "right", these types of speakers typically have limited dispersion patterns and produce a pretty narrow ( i.e. "beamy" ) sweet-spot. Some e-stat's have been characterized as having a sweet-spot that works well so long as you "hold your head in a vice" i.e. not move it around at all.

Having said all of that, i would say that mass produced E-stat's are not really "ideal" rock and roll speakers. Yes, many of them will "rock", but most won't "jam". I know that others that own E-stat's may want to crucify me for saying that, but this is strictly my personal opinion. The commercial designs that i've heard simply will NOT play loud enough to produce "sustained concert level" spl's in a medium to large sized room. If you try to do something like this, the mylar is either going to stretch badly and / or you'll arc the panels. You can get around this somewhat by going to a hybrid design, but i've yet to hear a hybrid that really worked "well" in terms of blending the drivers together at various spl levels. Most hybrids work well together in a specific spl range but the differences in driver characteristics become more apparent as you try to vary the output levels quite a bit. This is due to the fact that cones require excursion to produce output due to their limited surface area while e-stat's require surface area to produce output since they lack excursion. Finding a good blend between the two is VERY tough. Believe me, i know as that is what i'm "trying" to do with my main system. Sean
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I have to assume that Roger Sanders has come a LONG way on E-stat design. I am quite familiar with his work and even have his book about "homebrew E-stat's", which is probably quite a bit out-dated. The fact that he is the one given credit for "inventing" the curved panel design and then threw all of that time and effort away for the flat panel design that he is currently marketing tells me that he is a pretty open minded individual. Most folks that would have had that much time and effort ( not to mention ego ) into such a thing would have a hard time laying that down and admitting that there are better methods out there. I'll have to check into these and see what i can find. Sean
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