Dynaudio Special 25 vs. Contour 1.3 SE


I'm torn between just getting a pair of Dynaudio Contour 1.3 SE and ponying up to a pair of Special 25s. Are the Special 25s really that much better than the 1.3 SEs? I love the tight control of the 1.3 SEs, however, I haven't had the opportunity to listen to the Special 25s. Whatever I choose, I'll be driving them with an old Krell KSA 100 (class A) through a Meitner Museatex DAC--no preamp. I'm also open to non-Dynaudio suggestions, however, the JM Utopias were a bit warm for my tastes. Thank you!
bgarrett

Hello all,
I've owned the Dyn1.3SE's, and currently own the Dyn S3.4s and the Dyn Special25's. [Bgarrett]: I would recommend that you not get too caught-up in the specs of the various models you are interested in. The specs are not going to tell you much about the sound; rather only how they measure technically. It's important to remember that each of the models described above has a unique voice and sound.

For what it's worth, I believe that there is a significant performance increase from the 1.3se to either the C3, S25, or S34s. Most notably that the 1.3se tweeter seems prematurely rolled-off when compared to any of the other models. The C3 at medium to higher volumes is a benchmark speaker, however the C3 needs a huge amount of high-quality current; and performs best at fuller volumes in my experience. The C3 is also the least efficient at sensitivity and ohm load. Either the S25 or S34 is an easier load for an amp compared to the C3 and they don't go below 4 ohms.

As always an in-home audition with your equipment is preferred, as long as the speaker is properly already broken-in. Both the S25 and S34 take at a minimum over 100 hours of medium/fuller volume to get them to relax and open-up.

Bigger differences between the S25 and the S34, would be the use of the Esotar2 tweeter in the S25, and the new Esotec tweeter in the S34. Also, the S34 will dig deeper for you than the other models mentioned here, if a fuller range or dvd/film playback is an option for you.

I'd be glad to field additional specific questions if you have them.

given your room constraints I would recommend the Special25. Based mostly on the increased resolution and bass dynamics of the S25 over the 1.3se and the somewhat limited space/volume of your room. Ultimately, your personal taste of the models should prevail.
Thank you very much for the feedback. So, the C3's don't sound very good at low volumes? The Krell 100 is class A, hopefully it will keep up. I would need a speaker to do well at the 15 W per speaker level. So, should the C3s be taken off my list?
the 1.3 SE play better at louder volumes also, if you are taking the C3s off you better take off the 1.3 SE also. but i notice that when i picked up the PS Audio power plant 600 all that stop, i don't know why but it did.
Bgarrett - I wouldn't say the C3's don't sound very good at low volumes. They really sound fabulous if you let them go a bit, but they sound very good at low volumes as well. If you always listen at very modest volumes, you might find that you prefer a more sensitive speaker that is easier to drive, but at volumes my family will let me play my system at when they're not trying to sleep, the C3's are wonderful.

I would say the C3's wouldn't sound very good driven by less than excellent amplification. Krell and Dynaudio are a nice match, IMO, and I think you'd find that your amp drives the C3 (or any of the Dyn's you've mentioned) very nicely. Again, even if you're not cranking it up, having the current output and some muscle behind the speakers, even at low volumes, really makes them sing.

As MoeMoney says, the 1.3SE has the same characteristics - needs lots of good power to sound right throughout the volume range, sounds very good even at modest volumes, but really sings when it can "open up". -Kirk