in the direction of the arrows on the wire
Dynamic range - effect on different speaker cables - even very high quality ones
I have siltech Emperor double crown speaker cables. I recently bought Tara Omega Gold.
The difference was very strange, and significant. I could not put my finger on it and changed interconnects to see if there was a compatibility issue. The Siltechs brought out superbly the main "players" and that sound was bang in my face - great. But it was a bit lean in other areas (more periphery sounds such as tinkling of percussion here and there - that sort of thing).
The Omegas were exceptionally clean and detailed with EVERYTHING coming through, top to bottom, but no particular light and shade that the Siltechs gave. As such, a great pure sound but a bit soulless and didn't give me the bite that the Siltechs did.
I cannot survive life without the hit that the Siltechs give, so have kept those installed and I use the Omegas in an analogue set up (also lower dynamic range it seems) to enjoy those more
My false assumption before was that different cables had different qualities, and (or but) the basics of each recording would be dealt with principally the same i.e. just a different "house" sound
My dealer was nonplussed too as my description of the differences was a bit out of the ordinary, and the difference were VERY stark. I have tried many different cables over the years and never encountered this issue.
By asking around he came up with an interesting "reasoning"
Normal "players" or sources chuck out at a dynamic range of 70db. My DCS upsampler/clock/dac sends out at twice that, and the cables may get over saturated with the sound and act differently. It may appear that excessive dynamic range was not particularly an issue when they designed the cables and so the effect might be unpredictable?
Does anyone have a practical experience of this too - and I suppose the theory buffs out there could confuse me yet more.
The difference was very strange, and significant. I could not put my finger on it and changed interconnects to see if there was a compatibility issue. The Siltechs brought out superbly the main "players" and that sound was bang in my face - great. But it was a bit lean in other areas (more periphery sounds such as tinkling of percussion here and there - that sort of thing).
The Omegas were exceptionally clean and detailed with EVERYTHING coming through, top to bottom, but no particular light and shade that the Siltechs gave. As such, a great pure sound but a bit soulless and didn't give me the bite that the Siltechs did.
I cannot survive life without the hit that the Siltechs give, so have kept those installed and I use the Omegas in an analogue set up (also lower dynamic range it seems) to enjoy those more
My false assumption before was that different cables had different qualities, and (or but) the basics of each recording would be dealt with principally the same i.e. just a different "house" sound
My dealer was nonplussed too as my description of the differences was a bit out of the ordinary, and the difference were VERY stark. I have tried many different cables over the years and never encountered this issue.
By asking around he came up with an interesting "reasoning"
Normal "players" or sources chuck out at a dynamic range of 70db. My DCS upsampler/clock/dac sends out at twice that, and the cables may get over saturated with the sound and act differently. It may appear that excessive dynamic range was not particularly an issue when they designed the cables and so the effect might be unpredictable?
Does anyone have a practical experience of this too - and I suppose the theory buffs out there could confuse me yet more.
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Your despair at it’s base is borne of the fact that there is zero scientific basis for any aspect of this conversation. Hence all the facts, figures, measurements and assertions that amount to alchemy, witchcraft and wishful thinking. “I swear I can hear a difference from the cable costing $20K!” “A highly respected ‘engineer’ developed it!” There’s science for you. This whole thread is inane. |
Let me try and make this simple. It has NEVER been demonstrated scientifically (referring to proper, peer reviewed, journaled SCIENCE) that there is an audible difference between a $20K cable and a wire coat hanger. So, yes, I'm at least saying that - and then some. In fact, if you are interested in SCIENCE, there is a lot of proper SCIENCE to the contrary of the assertion that cables make a difference. It galls me that people waste their time and money in this vein, but more so that they try to belittle and bully the sensible among us who don't sign on for their crap. Frankly, it's a big part of what's wrong with this world of "alternative facts" at large right now. |
Our responses are 100% relevant to your "question." Don's spout such pablum if you don't want the enlightened among us to speak up. and your self-awareness quotient continuously shows itself to be approximately...zero. "If you can't pound the facts, then pound the table and attack people." This is your MO - continuous belittling, attempts to discredit and insulting those "lesser" than you as you sit atop your self-proclaimed lofty perch. Clearly you are so far above us all. If you want to pay thousands for cable "jewelry", then just call it what it is. There is no science to undergird your auditory hallucinations... |
The cables make a difference...Well, that pretty well settles it... Welcome to alternative reality 2020 - "it is so because I say it is so"..."like a miracle" Pardon me, but OP was the original "big bang" origin of offensive personal attacks when he failed miserably to muster any semblance of a deductive, fact-based narrative - and when "called out" for it he proceeded instead to throw tantrums, belittling and abusing the actual physics-educated, science-minded among us (e.g., we're all idiots without any capacity to understand his high intellectual perch, our hearing is deficient, our systems are the dregs, we are of "no use" to anyone, and other such drama) and behaving like an insufferably arrogant snob. As if his own inferiority complex isn't plain for any reasonably sentient being to see. And then onhwy61 actually has the temerity to pile on and invoke evolution in his defense?! Next level. For shame... Oh well - back to my wire freezing and saturation project. 'Think I'll blow this month's salary on some cable risers just like they use in all the recording studios... |