Dumped the rack


So I have a steel spiked Sound Organization table about 2 feet tall. On it rests a 3" maple butcher block. On that rests my slate Garrard 401 with slate feet and aluminum cones.
I had a piece of granite made and installed it on the maple beneath the turntable. Man, that sounded bad. Silvery colored and dull. I reversed the layer order and put the granite below the maple. That sounded a lot better. But not as good as when there was no granite. So I took it back out. Okay back to how it was. But something was missing. The granite did bring a feeling of stability to the image. What to do? I took the whole rack thing out of the equation and put the 401 on the concrete floor along with the preamp. This sounded best notwithstanding the wooden tone lost by removal of the maple. But the best thing, and I’m aware of the effect from reading but never tried it, was that imaging has improved by quite a margin. Like removing a veil of something. Like when someone moves their head out of your face at a concert. Now, I have to bend down to play records. 
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@dpac996

IMO, yes springs can benefit most any component. It certainly has enough potential benefit and low cost to try it. I always like trying for myself. If it doesn’t work out, at the very least, I’ve learned some things along this journey.
Or...you can have a base platform that receives the springs, have it's own leveling feet.
The issue some seem to have (without even trying them) is the fear of the springs leaning. This is a non-issue. If one wants to look closer at my system, I recessed the springs 1/8" into the receiving base platform and upper platform, negating any worry of spring leaning, or spring sliding.
OK...my point of reference will be, having the tt at an appropriate height that a normal person can deal with all maintenance issues. IE: "rotational grounding"  I'm just a layman...…………..

Good Luck!
BTW: these sorts of issues and possible positive outcomes = to what some may refer to as flexibility.

This is a positive. Since we all have different tts, should we not have a support/isolating system devised that is flexible in that it allows for additional products o be added?
There will always be a "fault" in any system. It may just be, if there are more points of resonance.... it's seems just as possible for just as many more ways of dealing with those resonances. Thanks for the good wishes.
@theaudiotweak ,

Look at my virtual system, where I try to show the upcoming wall mounting system. If you call it a "sounding board" after digesting that, I’d be surprised. In fact, I know of no other system like it. It will isolate from the floor and the wall, with decent acoustical feedback isolation.
A proper wall isolating system will overcome the issues in the previous post.

BTW, the tt mat I promised you, will be sent in a few weeks. This (may) address some of your issue in addition to just sounding good?
Having a tt set-up on or close to the floor is not an option for me or one I'd consider.

Besides the obvious...there's the cleaning of the record/stylus and other normal maintenance.
@noromance ,

I’ve been using my Mapleshade rack for the same purpose for years.

If you remember, I posted and option for decoupling your (oak table) from the floor a while back. I still wouldn’t take that option of "off the table", ha ha. (Look at my virtual system page and check out my amp stand set-up.) It’s a pretty easy DIY project.

I’m hopefully going to finally get my new wall mount system up in a couple of weeks. Something like that could be an option as well.