Dumb VTA Question


Sorry ... I have a dumb question about setting VTA. I own a VPI Classic TT which has "VTA on-the-fly" capability. My cartridge is the Lyra Kleos. When I mount the Kleos, the last adjustment is VTA. I start by setting VTA so that the tonearm appears horizontal. Then while I'm playing a record, I raise the tonearm and then lower it until I like what I hear.

Ok ... that's what I do. But here's the dumb question. Some vinyl buffs talk about setting VTA at 91.5 degrees, or 92.5 degrees, and the like. How the heck can someone know the degree of VTA adjustment with such precision?? Is there a tool or special protractor that permits such close adjustments?

Thanks for the education.

BIF
bifwynne

Showing 2 responses by dougdeacon

Gemini05,

Expanding on Peter's response, if you're obsessive enough to visually measure SRA, what needs to be measured is the vertical contact line of the stylus. That's what actually interfaces with the modulated grooves of an LP.

As Peter implied, whether this line falls at the front or back face of the stylus or somewhere in between depends on the stylus shape.

FYI, on some styli the contact line is easy to see, on others it's difficult or impossible.

Measuring anything other than the stylus's vertical contact line would produce a number only randomly related to its playback characteristics, not a measurement in any meaningful sense.

P.S. For completeness it should be noted that conical (aka, spherical) styli have no vertical contact lines, just two contact points. The lack of any vertical dimension in their contact surfaces makes SRA mathematically meaningless for conical styli. This explains why SRA changes with such styli are inaudible, which confirms the concept stated in my first paragraph by negative example.

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So much for theory. As others have stated, visual measurement of SRA is largely a waste of time. The most it can do is put you in the ballpark prior to final adjustment by listening. There are faster, easier and less expensive ways to do that than visual SRA measurement.

You can get in the ballpark in about 30 seconds with no measuring tools, magnification or special lighting. Just eyeball to make the cartridge top surface or (second best) the tonearm visually level to the record surface. That's almost always close enough. Fine tune by listening.

In an unfamiliar system with an unfamiliar tonearm and cartridge, I can optimize SRA for a particular LP in 2-3 minutes. In my own system it's even less, since the roughing in by eye has already been done. USB microscope geeks are still hunting for their tools while I'm listening to music, with SRA optimized at least as well as theirs will ever be. ;-)
What type of sound you want will depend on your preferences and to some extent on the types of music you listen to.

In terms of what is possible, you have a very capable setup. Every adjustment (and our TriPlanars have many!) makes its own unique differences to the sound. Tweaking VTF sounds different than tweaking SRA, etc. Learning what to listen for takes time and hands-on experimentation with ears and brain fully engaged. I can fire up my system, spin an LP an know within a minute or less if VTF, SRA or some other frequently adjusted parameter needs tweaking. But that kind of awareness took years to develop, at least for me.

Read posts on this forum and others that describe what to listen for when adjusting this or that parameter. Different people hear differently, so some explanations may speak to you more than others.

And practice, practice, practice...