Duelund shielding


I have some Duelund dual DCA12GA on order for speaker cable.  I'm seeking a richer, warmer tone and this unique cable is well recommended.  I am wondering though if anyone who is using it has gone to the effort of shielding it.

As far as I can tell, the cable is tinned copper and only wrapped in cotton.  There is no shielding.  I've also noticed that vendors such as Audiolund are repackaging it with added shielding.

Has anyone tried buying a metal braiding and shielded the raw cable themselves?  Did it improve the sound?

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I didn't try it with Duelund cables but I DIY speaker cables with similar construction and providing a shield improvement the sound quality (mostly blackness and image). The shield having equivalent gauge is used as the ground lead. The added capacitance will provide a path to ground for high frequency noise. Give it a try to see if you like it.

@lollipopguild 

Has anyone tried buying a metal braiding and shielded the raw cable themselves?  Did it improve the sound?

I have made ICs from the Duelund 20awg (DCA20GA600V) Tin Plate Copper Hookup Wire and shielded those cables using tinned copper braid shield connected at the source end only.  The cables are balanced/XLR interconnects and they sound good with no noise issues.

I have also made speaker cables from the Duelund 12awg (DCA12GA600V) Tin Plate Copper Hookup Wire and did not shield them.  They are constructed using a star quad geometry and bi-wired, so there are 8 individual runs of the 12awg wire to each speaker.  Few companies shield speaker cables so I am not sure what you would achieve by shielding the speaker cables.  If I were starting a speaker cable project with this wire, I would simply use their Dual DCA12GA 2x12 awg, Tin-plated, Stranded Copper, Oiled Cotton Speaker/Interconnect Cable.  The cable already comes as a twisted pair in an outer sleeve, so they are essentially good to go as-is after adding the connectors of your choice.  The already twisted and encased wire was not available when I made my speaker cables, so I used their hook-up wire.

I use the DCA12 Gauge as-is in both of my systems with no addl. shielding.  Great cable and a tremendous value... no need to spend more or add shielding IMO.

I didn't try it with Duelund cables but I DIY speaker cables with similar construction and providing a shield improvement the sound quality (mostly blackness and image). The shield having equivalent gauge is used as the ground lead. The added capacitance will provide a path to ground for high frequency noise. Give it a try to see if you like it.

A shield can keep RF out, but whether it affects the sound is unknown.
But the extra capacitance would form a filter to diminish the higher notes.

One sort of needs some proof as to which is happening to assign a root cause to the effect.
And it is unclear whether the effect is real.

In any case I am assuming that the shield is floated at the amp and speaker, and tied directly to some ground like the safety ground?

And the other good news in that the cotton would make the addition of a shield have a lower capacitance than it wold have with a higher dielectric constant material. So the cotton coming in lower.

Thanks all, for your comments

@mitch2 , I'm not intending to use connectors, but will follow the advice in this review. 

My speakers (ATC SCM40) are 3-way and have 3 sets of binding posts.  At the moment I have the supplied metal jumper bars in place.  I had up to this point been dreading having to buy 2 sets of jumpers for my existing cable (TelluriumQ Ultra Black II).  But, instead, I can use bare wire.  Just have to be careful there are no stray strands which might short the amp.

I have made ICs from the Duelund 20awg (DCA20GA600V) Tin Plate Copper Hookup Wire and shielded those cables using tinned copper braid shield connected at the source end only.  The cables are balanced/XLR interconnects and they sound good with no noise issues.

@mitch2 I am wondering… why not tie the shield at both ends of the XLR?
I need to make set of XLRs, and have wire of a similar construction in 20 or maybe 23 ga.

@holmz 

Because the shield is being used as a shield only - I run a separate, third wire for ground that is connected at both ends.

Because the shield is being used as a shield only - I run a separate, third wire for ground that is connected at both ends

Ah ok @mitch2 so it is electrically equivalent to tying the shield to the ground, just it is not pin-1 but tied to another place on the devices?