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Dual duty and LOUD

I have the upgrade bug and am looking to replace my main speakers (Infinity kappa 9). My room size is 17x21 and my speakers are about 12 feet apart and I sit 10 feet back in a sweet spot. I need a speaker that is for music 80% of the time and AV for the rest. I have plenty of amplification so efficent is not an issue. I use aragon pallidium mono blocks for my mains and an aragon 2005 for the center and surrounds. I'm not opposed to using a sub-woofer, I have a M&k Mk70. but it not nessary to use it. I mainly listen to classic rock and Blues. I have a second system for Jazz and classical that I listen to at much lower volume levels. I was wondering if my room is too small for planners. I do like full range speakers but would consider a monitor if it was large enough to put out some decent bass. Paradigm studio 40s come to mind.
What I'm looking for is a speaker and has lots of detail and plays crystal clear at high volume with good punch in the bass and crispy highs. It would also be nice if they sounded good at lower volume too! I haven't heard many high end speakers and I don't have many good stores in the Cleveland area to audition speakers so this site will have to be my startig point
Here are some of the speakers I have been considering
1. Vandersteens A good rock speaker or so they say
2. Paradigm studio 100s or their larger monitors
3. Canton Ergo 902. I love the clairity and detail of Cantons I have heard in the past but I haven't heard any of their currunt offereings
4. Maggies I will need some help here. anyone care to chime in?
5 Von schweikirt Maybe??
If there are others you feel I should consider let me know. It has been my experence that most expensive audiofile speakers are not loud enough for my liking so please keep this in mind. These speakers will be abused and used for movies also. I will most likely buy used so I can get more bang for my buck. <5k.
Does this speaker exist? Let my hear your comments
coman61
fishwater
178 posts
 
Coman, I would listen to the VR4jr's. They are a great speaker with excellent dynamics & control. If I sell mine it will only be so I can move up the line to Sr's or 99db's.
bdgregory
1,714 posts
 
I was just about to recommend Von Schweikert and noticed DRIVER's post. I have the VR4 gen III's (bought DRIVER's) so here's an endorsement of his comments. They're a great rock speaker. There may still be new SE's available for your budget, but you can move up the line if you're looking for used.

You may also consider Totem Mani-2 sig's - also well under your budget. They play loud, and have extremely tight bass and incredible detail that conveys the real power of Rock music.
coman61 OP
26 posts
 
Well I've managed to make a deal on a set of the new tyler acoustics pd 80's. They should be exactly what I was looking for. They are used and I had to give up my trusty Mcintosh mc 300 and some cash for them. I won't get the speakers for a couple of weeks so I will let you all know how they sound when I get them. Thanks for all your thoughts.
Audiokinesis, I would have tried the speakers you recommended and would have liked to see that place near Dearoit but I came across a deal that I couldn't pass up. I did take your advice and go with pro drivers. Hope it work out.
bob298b
1 posts
 
Sell your grandmother and buy some Wilson Audio Sophia's.
You might even find some 2nd hand or ex-demo since they have been superceded by the series 2. They will do everything you want of them and more, great at low and high listening levels. Awesome with movies (even as a 2 channel arrangement). I think you'll save money in the long run as they'll satisfy your every audiophillic craving for detail, dynamic slam, with a sweet treble that you won't find tireing.
coman61 OP
26 posts
 
Well I've had the PD-80 Tylers for about a week now and all I can say is WOW. These friggin things are loud!! They do a respectfully good job in 2 channel, huge soundstage image very good for a large speaker and are crystal clear.
They really shine in my HT rig. I think this is the biggest improvement I have made in my HT rig. They are not as dynamic as the Kappa 9's and the highs are a little thin. I'm sure this is do to not haveing a tweeter let alone 3 emits (GASP)!! All in all I'm happy with the speakers and will most likly send the kappa 9's down the road. I still have my 2 channel rig so If I just have to have those shimmering highs I could get a smaller set of Infinity's. AS for now I think I'll just flat out rock the PD-80s
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