Does anyone use a RUMBLE filter?


I am having way to much cone movements on my main speakers and Sub when I play vinyl. Someone suggested I purchase a rumble filter from KAB audio. I notice that a lot of the cheaper phono preamps have these filters built in. When I purchased a more expensive better sounding unit ..it dosent have one. So I am wondering why dont a lot more companys sell these things if they are so important? I need to buy one and they dont seem to be very expensive $170 + another IC cable.
mattmiller

Showing 3 responses by actusreus

How are you degrading the audio signal when you're removing frequencies that cannot be reproduced by your speakers?
11-19-13: Rauliruegas
Dear Actusreus: I have to think that you posted as a joke.

No, I'm serious. I'd like to hear your explanation. If your speakers are fluttering trying to reproduce subsonic frequencies that go below the speakers' frequency range and cannot be heard to begin with, I'd like to hear a scientific explanation how you're degrading the signal by removing these frequencies from the signal.
Rauliruegas
Dear Actusreus: probably you don't know how filters works so take a look on internet to learn about other that what Onhwy61 posted.

This is your response? I thought you knew what you were talking about. Sounds like you're simply repeating your analog rhetoric without much scientific knowledge on the subject to back it up. Sorry, but that's not very convincing to me.

It seems to me that the audio signal is always necessarily "filtered" once that stylus and its motor assembly picks it up off the record surface. Open up your phono, line, and power amps and you'll see all sorts of "filters" such as transformers, resistors, capacitors, chokes, etc. I don't doubt that there are better and worse subsonic filter designs out there, just as there are better and worse amplifier designs out there, and I do understand the argument that fewer components in the signal path is more desirable. But after reading countless posts about rumble filters on this forum over the past several years, I still have not seen a convincing argument how a well-executed rumble filter degrades sound except for purist rhetoric. Onhwy61's post is a good start, but I'd like to see more informed responses.

The most popular rumble filter on the market is the KAB filter. It's supposed to be transparent and not affect the signal except for the undesirable ultrasonic frequencies it is designed to filter. I'd like to hear an educated opinion just how this filter degrades the audio signal besides adding another pair of IC to the path.