Does Anyone Think CD is Better Than Vinyl/Analog?


I am curious to know if anyone thinks the CD format (and I suppose that could include digital altogether) sounds better than vinyl and other analog formats. Who here has gone really far down both paths and can make a valid comparison? So far, I have only gone very far down the CD path and I just keep getting blown away by what the medium is capable of! I haven’t hit a wall yet. It is extremely dependent on proper setup, synergy and source material. Once you start getting those things right, the equipment gets out of the way and it can sound more fantastic than you can imagine! It’s led me to start developing a philosophy that goes something like this: Digital IS “perfect sound forever”; it’s what we do to the signal between the surface of the CD and the speaker cone that compromises it.” 
So I suppose what I’m asking for is stories from people who have explored both mediums in depth and came to the conclusion that CD has the most potential (or vice versa - that’s helpful too). And I don’t simply mean you’ve spent a lot of money on a CD player. I mean you’ve tinkered and tweaked and done actual “research in the lab,” and came back with a deep understanding of the medium and can share those experiences with others.

In my experience, the three most important things to get right are to find a good CD player (and good rarely means most expensive in my experience) and then give it clean power. In my case, I have modified my CD player to run off battery power with DC-DC regulators. The last thing that must be done right is the preamp. It’s the difference between “sounds pretty good” and “sounds dynamic and realistic.”
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I’m surprised this is still brought up.

There are many variables. Was the CD an analog-recording that wasn’t mastered right ? Are we using a transport that can-only read CD ? Dedicated-CD is better than multi-format.

Is the listener using an R2R DAC ?(vs Delta/Hybrid). The former are better for PCM, hence their resurgence in the last 8 years.

Loudness is a choice of the engineer, not a direct-fault of digital recording. Look how good digital pop-music sounded in the early-to-mid 90s.

LP is LOADED with problems. To start, you don’t know if a used-disc is scratched, with CD you do. LP-listening interrupts the artist’s intent (but this is minor).

LP is made from recycled-PVC -it warps and collects dust. It’s speed is too slow -so collectively, a big-step down from 78s, except surface noise. LP has ’groove bias’ (pre-echo), sampling slowdown (185% inner to outer grooves), bearing friction, ’rumble and offset’ (which sends distortion thru the amp).

Unless direct-drive -belt-slippage, (still) high surface noise -S/N of 50db vs. 90+ CD, low channel-separation -25 vs 75db at 1 kHz.

Highs and lows are trimmed. What gets me is that people actually believe LP sounds better, Even in 2020, the year we (should) see...


I've explored CD, FLAC, and Analog-Record sources. All with pretty high end signal paths. My Feickert Analog turntable for example. Results... FLAC files derived from CDs sound the best TO ME. I actually sold my OPPO after discovering this and not needing a CD Transport. But I also love listening to my Feickert feeding a Whest Two.2 phono-pre. Records are fun, but they don't sound as accurate or as clean. Certainly the noise floor is much higher than a well generated digital stream to me. Still I listen to analog quite a bit. And my speakers range from large, 4-way boxes to single point OB. So that's what I found in my world.
Greetings and Happy New Year. I spent four years of research including trial and error and the purchasing of a variety of audio equipment in both the digital and analogue arenas. As you have indicated the source is paramount and budget plays a big part in results. I could report volumes of observations and conclusions that resulted in the opening of a Distribution company (Audioarcan).  Now I spend considerable time with clients that are asking the same questions as yourself regarding vinyl v/ CD/Streaming. 
Simply stated we have concluded that vinyl has the superior sound if one has the budget. Digital gives the better bang for your buck and offers unparalleled convenience and access to seemingly endless music. Our typical routine is to use streaming to research new artist's and albums using an excellent quality music player and DAC with  Roon/Tidal access. Then once we find an album we really like we source it in vinyl. 
Over simply put we found we needed to spend at least twice to three times the budget on TT, cartridges and phono stage amplification to raise above the digital offering. From my perspective well worth the investment. 
Hope this helps and happy listening - Audioarcan - Canada
As far as I'm concerned, I'm all for analog - - vinyl and cassette (I don't use reel to reel, too expenaive). But for classical music, I now prefer hi-res digital like SACDs and files. It would take a very expensive vinyl set-up to equal digital performance in complex and layered classical music. And the medium, vinyl could be a problem in itself. Take for example Beethoven's 9th Symphony; it's very hard not to get distortion near the end of the last movement even with the best cartridge, arm and turntable. It's the inner grooves. Can't do anything about it. 
Talking about 78's I just got given what looks like several hundred 78s! 
A person we know is moving out of his grandfather's house into a condo and in cleaning up and out he found these in a closet in the basement. He just wanted to get rid of them and I just happened to be in the line of fire:-) Just ordered an AT Vm670SP to play them.

I have no idea what happed to you antigrunge2. Maybe an older version of Pure Music, bad usb conversion. Lord knows. Michael Fremer uses the very same system and programming and is thrilled with it. The conversion the SPDIF and clocking are very important and the Alpha USB is special. My front end is entirely digital which may make a difference. In this day and age the only critical points are the USB conversion/clocking and the analog section of the DAC. Otherwise it is just numbers and numbers do not lie. 

As far as the Mac mini itself is concerned as long as you have a SSHD and a lot of memory there is nothing you can do to make it sound better other than up sampling which Pure Vinyl (contains Pure Music) does for you. But, the better sound is coming at the output of the DACs which can use better filters with the higher sampling rate. The DACs are on the other side of my preamp. Within the Mac Mini it is only numbers not sound. The Mini's DACs are not involved at all. The Alpha USB is important because it is clocking the data so the preamp can "understand" it. By all accounts it is superlative at this job. If I download a CD to the hard drive and sync the digital outputs of my CD player and the Mac Mini it is impossible to tell them apart. 
Other benefits are not only can you steam music but Movies, TV and You Tube. I can shop online while listening to music. I can listen to music samples on HD Tracks before buying, etc. All this at very significant savings over the Aurender.