Does any one know a cable that is able to compete with clear day double shotgun?


I have a pair of clear day double shotgun and curious to know how its level is in the current market. If you have tried clear day’s double shotgun and some other speaker cables, please share your experience. Thank you in advance.
twinterfinder

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adg101

Thank you for your experience sharing. The reason I ask the question is not that I want to replace it but I was absolutely amazed by it. It works so well on my system and I tried put it to my father’s system. He loves it so much and I couldn’t take it back. It is hard to find a used clear day and I just want to get one in similar level as quick as possible and I can get rid of my old cable. I guess every audiophiles know that feeling.
stringreen

indeed cables are system dependent. Since I have limited budget, I believe some advices  from audiophiles may lower the risk. Thank you!
adg101

Your advice is again appreciated! My 1.3 se has no bi-wire available and I am definitely looking for clear day’s IC.

I have reached to Paul a month ago. He is a great gentleman and gave me advices even though he is no longer in business.

conradnash


That sounds very interesting! For one with limited buget like me, your reply is very much appreciated.

Please share your audition result on the forum. That would be very helpful to the audiophiles. Did you see any discussion about John's cable on internet?

jackd

Cabledyne is also one that is usually referred to on the forum and very attractive at its price range(Synergy). Thanks a lot!

conradnash

  Glad to hear your feedback and thanks to the discovery. Looks like silver cable makers in UK are quite active. Unfortunately I didn't find any review about the Gothic Audio. Please let me know if you find any.

Do you also have clear day cable in hand? Can you share the comparison result?

Cabledyne is one of the recommendation in Audiogon. It can be a very good a/b test standard.

motokokusanagi

Wow! You have experienced really wide range of speaker cable. I know only 2 of them. Your sharing is very much appreciated!

How do they rank in your system btw?
I am also interested in your audition result on the Gothic audio if you do buy them.

Thanks for sharing!
motokokusanagi

I have heard of cableco but did not look into it seriously. I too would like to hear as many as possible. Luck me reading your experience and definitely like to check it out. Very interesting about Black Cat.

Can’t wait to try some of them.
I have tried CTGE and silver Litz braided one from Westbury Audio on eBay.

CTGE is quite warm with great details, especially quite a rich vocal body. Plus Bob is a great gentleman to communicate with.
Westbury Audio has all the characters of a silver cable, wide sound stage, much focused image and leaned toward listener. John is a very warm person who answered dozens of my questions nicely. The price to performance is definitely a bargain.

My conclusion is I would prefer a little bright but not too bright which means a middle one between these two.
I appreciate all your advices.
From what I have learned on the forum, I had a trial making Paul’s double shotgun construction speaker cable. Using 99.99% 24 AWG solid silver core insulated by teflon tube and covered by mesh nylon tube (or mesh P.E. tube, whatever you can find) as protection. Using heat shrink tube to fix silver wire and teflon at both ends in case the wire moving inside teflon. Now I have 16 lines. Use tapes to ID 4 lines as a group. I use 4 red tapes to ID 4 ends of 2 groups and 4 black tapes to ID another 2 groups. Each group will be for one end on a amp to another end on a speaker. Twist one red group with one black group as Paul did and add a section of heat shrink tube in the middle(of course I need to clamp each side before shrink tube). Split red and black at 200mm away from the end and heat shrink. This is to leave some straight lines for soldering work. Solder 4 ends with silver plated fork terminals. Again using heat shrink tube fixing mesh nylon with fork ends and cover my ugly soldering. This will finish one cable. Silver wire is pretty strong and I never break any of them during the trial. SQ is immediately changed on my system which had a copper cables before. The sound stage is wide opened with tighter bass. It was about 100 hours later the midrange getting much nicer. Silver cable I tried were in Liz structure and were with less tight bass and smaller sound stage and with harsh treble. I can’t say it 100% matches to Paul’s cable in SQ but I am quite satisfied with it. Double shotgun is a good structure. I used plain teflon tube and they are really cheap 1.7 USD a meter. I don’t think a Hifi grade one would change anything since they are for current insulation not noise isolation. Like many audiophiles said, speaker cables allow high current passing through and are not effected by home appliances unless there is a giant transformer outside of your house. My next trial is to see 6N or 7N silver or silver/gold alloy wire if they make any difference.