Do 45 rpm 12" LPs really sound better than 33 rpm?

45's sound better than 33's except when the 45 has mud on it. 45's sound better than 33's except when the listener get reverse 'audioitis'; that's when he can't tell his left ear from his right ear, and good sounds bad.

Anytime I see my favorite music offered at 45 RPM, I am going to buy it.

Chakster, all record players played both 45, and 33; the same 45 that was on the jukebox; it's just that jukeboxes produced state of the art sound while most record players were below "midfi"; have you ever seen a 1 box record player.

Since jukeboxes relate to another time that you and younger enthusiast can not relate to, I will refrain from mentioning them; will that make you comfortable?

But jukeboxes relate to 45's that sound better than 33 1/3 LP's, and I hope to find some in mint condition.

Chakster, "Music Direct" offers Charles Mingus "Mingus Ah Um" as a 180g 45RPM 2 LP set; other than a different diameter, are we still talking about 45 RPM records?

Chakster this is the same "Sidewinder" that was on the 33 1/3 LP that was on the juke box. I could go on all day long with 45's that were on LP's as well as 45's on jukeboxes; what more do you want?


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Chakster, do you mean to tell me that one 45 RPM record sounds different from another? That the difference in the diameter of the record makes a difference in the sound?

I think you are uncomfortable with what I'm talking about because you don't know what I'm talking about; they evidently didn't have lounges with state of the art jukeboxes where you are. How about "Malt Shops", did they have them? Now you're going to tell me that the sound of one 45 RPM record is drastically different from another 45 RPM record. Is one 33 1/3 drastically different from another if the records are of a different diameter?

It all boils down to the fact that you can not relate to what I'm talking about, so you think that others don't know what I'm talking about, but I believe they do and can relate to what I'm talking about, and understand the relevance.

Edgewear, I'm talking about RVG originals that were on the jukebox at the same time as the LP; that were specifically pressed as 45's for the jukebox.   

We are talking about the same identical "master tape"  pressed on a 45 with higher speed and more room; it had to be better.

Here are 45's that are available, but unless they were the 45's off of jukeboxes, and had not been handled by human hands, I wouldn't want them.

https://www.ebay.com/bhp/45-rpm-jukebox-records
        

Now that I recall, the sound of the jukebox 45 was "always" superior to the 33 of the same record in the 60's; now we are comparing apples to apples, and not apples to oranges.

While there are two factors involved: the superiority of the jukebox rig, as opposed to the average home audio rig playing the 33, I am accounting for that; plus, keep in mind we are talking about only one cut off the 33 LP that was specifically pressed for the jukebox.

I'm positive there were cuts off "Kind of Blue" that were 45's made for the jukebox.

I'll have to go along with "mikelavigne" and here's why: When I was a young man doing my thing in the lounges where a state of the art jukebox contained all the top jazz plus R&B hits that were all on 45, I recalled how good the music sounded; it was not one bit antiseptic or bleached, like in top home audio, but those 45's engrossed you in the emotion and meaning of the music; it communicated. Even today, I'm not satisfied until I have reproduced the nuances I recall.

"NUANCES" sound better at 45;  it boils down to how intense a listener you are;  that's my take but I'm looking forward to other responses.