Disappointing On Mcintosh......help


 3 Months ago  I went to NYC and stopped by the WOM  and auditioned several MCintosh gear...........and left a bit disappointed or not impressed...then I told myself   " lets give a second shot"  and went today to a  HIFI store and again Good room accoustics10K speakers , MC Preamp , MC Amplifier........ and again  the same disappointment I felt 3 month earlier.

Is that the "warm" sound people reffer to about Mcintosh?  
The sound is ample, base is powerfull  but the the sound is simply  not to clear, the hights are not too "crisp"  It sounds like the treble is set at 3 and needs to be adjusted at 9 or 10.
It seems like  the sound is  coming through a thin layer of paper ...that is the way I describe that sound.  

Then 20 minutes later I auditioned a Parasound A21+ and a JC5 and the sound was more clear and the highs were crispier

Whats your take on my experience?  or That is the MC "warm sound? 
cydrone

Showing 2 responses by elliottbnewcombjr

Originally, and now, their claim has been their Transformer Patent, Neutrality, Protection Circuit, Build Quality.

just popped up on Google.

https://www.popsci.com/story/technology/mcintosh-amp-factory-photos/

I visited the headquarters and manufacturing/service building last year, holy smokes, this article has no photos of how big it is! 

Was there to service, then sell my Solid State MC2250 amp; SS C28 Preamp.

I went for an old Tube Mcintosh Tuner/Preamp from the 60's, mx110z, I couldn't be happier. 
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Often you never know the whole chain, weakest link.

I just blew a 6sl7 tube (labeled Cayin, source?) in my beloved Integrated Tube Amp (Cayin A88T), and quickly ordered two new matched pairs, Sylvania NOS, ....

Then, I searched my random collection of tubes, found a GE, used, strong, put it in the blown channel, wonderful, matched the sound of the other Cayin 6sl7. Found another, and last used GE, they are in there now.

New Sylvania's arrived, oh boy! In/ sounded dull, so compressed, no!!! Burnt them in for 3 full days, improved a bit, but still not as musical as the GE's. Brent Jesse has the GE's, NOS, and will take these Sylvanias back.
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Point is: If I heard that Cayin amp with those Sylvania tubes, I would have walked away saying negative things about Cayin, meanwhile, with the GE's, I absolutely love it.

btw, Cayin came with 6550's, very nice. After a few months, I tried some KT88's. Slight preference for KT88's,

What cables were in the chain, ....?  Good stuff can be rejected in the store, and great stuff in the store, in your space, your cables, .... can be disappointing. 

It's work to get it right.
zavato

McIntosh serviced my MC2250 amp, and my C28 Preamp,

but they do NOT support my mx110z in any way. Granted it’s from the 60’s, but still, If I was willing to wait .....

No parts, no service. I broke the face glass last year, no help. I found replacement glass online, but, decided to have a local shop make me a piece with two holes (half the price), I masked off the clear area and painted it black myself (as original). And renewed the dust seals around it’s inside edges.

They are making me a new factory box for it, $55. delivered, so if needing to ship it in the future ......