Disappointed in SACD player


Well, there I was yesterday. At the chain store who Sony has designated as their retail point of attack for SACD in the Philadelphia, PA region. Tweeter, formerly known as Bryn Mawr Stereo and Video. Formerly, Bryn Mawr Stereo(but we all know what happened there). Since my recent misfortunes with CD players, I was considering a jump to a Sony SACD player. One thing about Sony, their stuff is reliable. I found one player, the 5 disc changer. It was hooked up in a HT setup. Not even prominently. There was also another CD player in this system, along with a DVD-V player. As no salesman came into the room, I didn't pursue. I found no other player in the store. Finally, when we were looking at tv's, someone asked us if we needed help. I asked about SACD, and was told two players were on display. I asked to see the one that I didn't see. I was taken to a wall of DVD players, and sure enough, the ES9000 was there. Not hooked up, sitting there like all of the other DVD players. And in fact, THAT IS HOW THIS STORE IS MARKETING IT. As a DVD player! The guy gave me the big spiel on it, from a DVD perspective. 12 bit scan, instead of 10, etc., etc., etc. All of which is meaningless to me. I am not a HT or DVD guy. I spend my time on two channel audio. The guy left me less interested in the player than when I came in. They could not even find any SACD material in the entire store. Not even a sampler. I came in wanting to be impressed, wanting to leave with the desire to buy an SACD player. Needless to say, I probably won't be buying very soon. Wasn't this supposed to be Sony's summer of all out SACD offensive? Players starting at $350(which still will probably come), creating interest with the general public and lifting the new format to something beyond the niche of the lunatic fringe. As it is now, it is not even as recognizable as DAT, and miles behind MD(which was very prominent in the store). Both of which are monumental flops in the words of Sony.
trelja

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I also suggest that you contact J&R Music World. I just bought a SCD-333ES from them and they are blowing them out for $600 which is half price. If you are interested in 2 channel as I am then this is by far your best bet. Their new machines are all multichannel and the 555ES which is basicly a multichannel version of the 333ES will set you back $1500. BTW, I bought a 777ES from J&R a year ago for $1800 and just sold it for what I paid. I am very happy with the 333ES and with a Perpetual Tech front end is far superior sounding to the 777ES and much more convienient to use. Also, doesn't take forever to load a disc. The 777ES is I'm sure a better transport but with all of the reclocking and upsampling the differences are marginal. Also, Modwright will upgrade the 333ES for around $350 so for less than a grand you can have something very close to SOTA and convience too!
I agree with J thunders about Sony's handling of the software issue and the general greed of the music industry in general, although I think there is plenty of blame to go around for high CD prices. It is appaling to pay $16-$19 for a CD of music that is 30 to 50 years old and in many cases the artist is long dead. Where is all of that money going? Now it appears that remastering a disc is all the excuse needed to charge full price. Why was the first CD mastering so lousy to begin with? That's one great thing about SACD, you should finally have a definitive copy of the master tape, no need to replace it again. But SONY made a couple of big mistakes. First these single layer discs negates the whole advantage of SACD compatibility. Now I'm expected to pay $25 for a disc that I can't play on but one machine. Then look at the music they are releasing. Most of the pop stuff is poorly recorded in the first place, not listenable on a good high end system and then you have to buy another copy to play in your car! Deserve to fail....indeed! The other poison pill is the inability to access the digital data stream. In their paronia about copy protection SACD is left behind in the future of digital system integration and signal processing. If you can take your datastream and add speaker and room correction such as the Perpetual Tech stuff I feel that the leap in performance will be much greater than that of SACD or DVDA. I hope to have my P-1a in about a month so I'll report back but after a year with SACD I can say that the improvements are subtle and require a near SOTA system to make it worthwhile.