Directional interconnect cables

Narrod - Thats exactly what I'm saying - trust your ears. Some people are absolutely certain that wire cannot have directional properties at any level tossing left and right equation from high school books while everything is in reality much more complicated (what I was trying to show)

So I trust my ears and when I'm not certain I follow manufacturers recommendation (I don't see reason why not to).

Shadorne - wires are diodes. some impurities in the wire might create semiconductor junctions. As an example - copper oxide (wire in never 100% oxygen free) behaves like semiconductor. It was used to make rectifiers. Quote from Wikipedia below:

"Copper(I) oxide was the first substance known to behave as a semiconductor. Rectifier diodes based on this material were used industrially as early as 1924, long before silicon became the standard."

What happens inside of the wire is complicated. Electrons are not moving very fast (about 1/2" per second) and with AC signal they will never leave the cable. I would not polarize my cable with DC and loose my expensive electrons I paid for (ha ha).

I'm just merely stating that knowledge of Ohm Law is not enough to question expertise of cable manufacturers - reality is much more complicated. I would rather depend on my ears or conduct experiment.

Since we are starting another round I'll have Pear Martini (to keep it simple). Cook pears slowly with saffran. Thank you.

Musicnoise - as you can see my post was not a joke (part about expensive electrons was). Electromagnetic wave moves in 60-70% of the speed of light but electrons are almost not moving. Small impurities create tiny semiconductor like junctions. It is not possible to measure them since things are happening on the level of microvolts here (-80dB). The way they are oriented may be dependant on cable manufacturing (how cable was drawn). I am speculating here, not knowing exactly what is happening inside. I just wanted to make point that things are much more complicated than we think. Some manufacturers make cables from nine nines copper (99.9999999% pure) and in addition cooling it in hot forms to avoid rapid cooling and crystaline structure (Zero Crystal Copper). Wire like that has one or no crystals per foot while standard oxygen free copper wire has couple of thousand. On the other hand some people buy speaker wire i Home Depot.

04rdking - Many people don't believe in burning-in either. Common measurements done with Ohmeter, Voltmeter etc get a little bit fuzzy when done at -100dB.

First solid state amps had bright edgy sound, while their manufacturers were proving (measurements) superiority over tube amps - later Transient Intermodulation and other effects were discovered. All I'm saying is that wire might have "some" directional properties and trust cable companies - they certainly know more and have more experience.

Musicnoise - scientists still cannot fully understand mechanics of the current flow and according to some current is carried by Photons (mathematically impossible) and according to others by free electrons (physically impossible - too slow) and even according to some carried outside of the conductor by electromagnetic wave. They are not certain how this wave is created - if by charge transfer then how?

The funny thing is that all this scientific discussions are not really necessary because you already explained it to us.

Oh my God - Are you ALL guys SCIENTISTS???
One vodka on ice for me, pleeeeease (always helps in scientific discussions).
On the second thought - make it double.

Carl109 - There is a huge sound difference between ICs and speaker cables.
I tried once speaker cable between pre-amp and power-amp and it sounded non-interesting. No highs, poor definition and a lot of static.

Shardone - Of course not to trust them completely but don't expect evil doing either. When I bought my car I trusted manufacturer - (profit oriented too).

Everybody is expecting conspiracy from cable manufacturers at different level. Is 9N copper or 7N silver necessary, what about zero crystal process? Is capacitance of 5pF or inductance of 40nH per foot necessary. Or complicated winding technics to lower skin effect in speaker cables. What about lowering dielectric constant by using oversized foamed teflon tubes? To many all of the above is snake oil and lamp cord from Home Depot is just fine. Whatever!

Carl109 - I know, it was just a joke. It might be easy to observe that something likely "IS" but much more difficult to prove that something "ISN'T". We just don't know enough. Electromagnetic wave cannot be explained by stack of ping-pong balls or something like that, because there is a space between electrons about 100000x their size. How charge is transfered if they move very slow?. One theory is that electrons emit photons but it does not work either. We learn just few years ago how aspirine works (in usage since 1800s). Once we thing we know everything new discovery come like recent 4-th missing element "Memsistor". I would not involve science in Audio.
When I see great spects like THD=0.0001% I expect poor sound - something has to give. I don't even look at specifications.