Direct Drive


I am firmly in the digital camp, but I’ve dabbled in vinyl.  Back in the day I was fascinated by Technics Direct Drive tt, but couldn’t afford them.  I was stuck with my entry level Gerrard.  I have been sans turntable for about 5 years now but the new gear bug is biting.  I am interested in the Technics 1500 which comes with an Ortofon Red and included pre amp.  I have owned Rega P5 which I hated for its speed instability and a Clearaudio Concept which was boring as hell.

  Direct Drive was an anathema to audiophiles in the nineties but every time I heard  one it knocked my socks off.  What do the analogers here think of Direct Drive?  I listen to Classical Music exclusively 

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@goofyfoot I really do not have an opinion on the Thorens Origin motor upgrade. I have the original German 16-pole synchronous motor albeit it gas been cleaned and tweaked a bit, polished bearing....it is dead silent and over 40 years old.

If it isn't broke don't fix it. 

Listening to it now and I am still amazed how these 40 year old turntables can give the modern stuff a run for their money.  

You guys are worse than the motorcycle forums.

Pasta burner vs kraut burner vs rice burner. Chain vs belt, vs shaft. 

WHO CARES DD or Belt it's about the music. 

Silly!

ProJect Debut Carbon Total entry level TT.

My Thorens TD145 is fantastic. Built in the 1975 and I had it professional restored with a custom plinth. Rewired the TP-16 tone arm with Cardas Clear Phono. Has MP110 MM Cart (love it).

 

@billwojo it is wow and flutter. 

Here are the specs for the Technics 1210G DD TT

Rumble is motor noise.

 Type: Direct Drive Manual Turntable
Turntable Speeds: 33-1/3, 45 and 78 rpm
Adjust Range: ±8 %, ±16 %
Starting Torque: 3.3 kg-cm
Build-up Characteristics: 0.7 s. from Standstill to 33-1/3 rpm
Wow And Flutter: 0.025 % W.R.M.S. (JIS C5521)
Rumble: 78 dB (IEC 98A weighted)

Now here are the spec's for a 1975 Thorens TD145

Specifications

Drive system: 16-pole synchronous motor with belt drive

Record speeds: 33⅓ and 45 rpm

Turntable platter: 12 -inch non-magnetic zinc alloy

Rumble : -48 dB (unweighted), -69dB (weighted)

Wow and flutter: 0.06%

Looking at these spec's you will not hear either.  Like I said it is a silly argument. Also someone made a comment about changing belt, how hard is it? Not hard at all. Speed on my 47 year old turntable is dead nuts on.