.? Digital Reclocking and syncing clocks does anyone know the correct Answrrsb


Hello To all ,many Audiophiles I have found do not  even know what a Digital reclocker is, and what does it do exactly , and how it helps the incoming signal.

and the Bigger question is Syncing  the clock to Dac.

for example with Denafrips Reclocker , the most versatile I have seen with input outputs especially from Hermes, Gaia DCC reclockers  most inputs,outputs,       they have both   45,and 48 MHZ  for clock sync. ,other dacs clocks may use 5-10 MHz  ,this gets a bit confusing.
Here is a big question , say you have a very good dac with over clock ⏰, 

Is there any advantage to syncing clock say from cheaper Iris DDC reclocker  ,to the  very good say Terminator oven  controlled clock. The Big  question is how does this work? Does the better clock in the dac dominate or influence  the lesser  clocks ?

or don’t bother syncing clock with cheaper Iris DDC ?  Do you have to have a reclocker with = quality ⏰ clock  to the dac to  make it  a Sonic improvement ? 
these are the questions  no one I know has been able to answer with absolute knowledge.

just the reclocker itself is worth wild for. It filters and cleans the incoming digital signal ,through usb,BNC,or coaxial cable, then reclocks signal to dac to have a pristine signal to read.. in this respect even a good basic reclocker like Iris would be very good ,on pontus and even Venus dac ,and Holo springs worked well 

for $600, next Big step the $1250 Hermes better everything including oven controlled clocks ,if you can afford it.  Syncing clocking is the big Question is there any benefit going from a lesser Iris clock in the Iris DDC reclocker syncing clock to say a Terminator + with far superior oven  clocks?Is there any benefit ? If so why ?  Thank you to Anyone who may have the expertise to logically explain this.
Hopefully Alvin Chee will see this ,Happy listening to  your music .🎶 🎵 

jimob

Showing 10 responses by lordmelton

There are Re-Clockers and Word Clocks. The Iris, Hermes and Gaia are re-clockers which means your USB, AES/EBU or SPDIF cables go into the re-clocker before the DAC. The signals are then of course re-clocked or to say it another way synchronized in time with each other.

This is excellent for computer audio, however high end servers may not benefit so much.

For high end servers and DACs that have a Word Clock input adding a Word Clock brings another dimension of clarity. Denafrips make the Terra Master Clock.

The Denafrips system is pretty much an in house solution. If you have mixed brands look at Mutec. The Mutec MC3+USB is a re-clocker and word clock and can be connected to their very high end 10MHz Master Clock.

Grimm Audio is another consideration.

Have fun.

@audioman58 Hi using the Terminator with one of Denafrips re-clockers (DDC) I'm sure will be a fine solution. The clocks won't get degraded but I'm not sure how Denafrips' Terra connects to their system. If you have a very good server, as I said before, you probably won't need a re-clocker just the Terra Master Clock, but you also mentioned I2s so the Hermes etc. would be necessary.

I just use a Mutec MC3+USB only in Word Clock mode coupled to my Aurender N20 and it makes a huge difference. Mutec 10MHz is on my shopping list after I decide on a new DAC.

Cheers

@big_greg Hi Man I'm currently temporarily using a Teac UD-503 DAC/Pre-Amp in my main system because my Musical Fidelity DAC doesn't do DSD. Honestly it's outstanding. I originally bought it as a headphone amp but it sounds even better as a  DAC/Pre-Amp. It's clock input is 50 ohm, not the usual 75 ohm so I haven't been able to figure it to my Word Clock.

However if you're using computer audio it sounds fantastic with a re-clocker like the Mutec.

God Bless

@jimob Hi the Terra is a Master Clock like the Mutec 10 MHz Master Clock so it should slave all other clocks to it. The Mutec is straighforward because 10MHz is standard.

Ok so to sum up if you're only using USB and need I2s out use the Iris. If you don't need I2s, use Mutec because it's a universal solution and it also includes a Word Clock.

YMMV

@mesonto  Yeah listen to Cindy from audiosciencereview.com where they never listen to anything just put it through an oscilloscope or multimeter. Again you are another Audio Messiah trying to save the Audio Fools from buying exorbitantly priced HIFI gear that you can buy on AliBaba for peanuts.

And BTW re-clocking is for the computer or source not the DAC : )

@cindyment  You really are off the charts...lol.

Re-read what you quoted it confirmed what I originally said.

Sources need to be re-clocked to give a DAC the best possible signal.

What's wrong? Is your multimeter broken or something?

@mesonto I'm not having a jab at you or anyone else here. Just go and have a listen and make your own mind up instead of looking at specs all the time.

Check a Mutec or similar out for re-clocking (huge difference) or word clock (small but subtle difference).

I have even seen a RPI for about $150.00 that's a re-clocker but I haven't tried it.