I was talking about the Nautilus series, as I've never heard the Matrix series.
Lthkeeper, did you hear the N804 vs the N805 side by side the same day/same system?
And you can successfully Bi-amp the 805.
IF you're saying that the $3500 804 are worth the additional $1500 over the 805, well, I must respectfully disagree.
I still say that if the 805 don't do it for you, (about the only complaint possible is bass response), a REL Strata sub for $1500 retail will give you real bass response, not just a 9 db lower -3db point.
Plus, you probably will have to use a strong solid state amp to drive the 804, whereas the 805 can actually use and benefit from a tube amp and the REL subwoofers have their own amp built in...
Anyway, whatever you choose, try to hear both side by side, and take into consideration the distance from the speakers that your primary listening position will be.IF it's 7 feet or less, the 804s probably won't sound properly integrated, top to bottom.
Also, if you go with the 805, dont use the B&W stands, they kinda suck.
I would suggest the Osiris stands (you can get from Sigsound.com and avalonav.com)
I have dealt with both, fine gentlemen, the both)
Depending on your seat height, you MAY want to get the 21.5" stands, as I found that the 24" stnads were too high for me.
happy listening!