Hello Before I go off on a Magical 🧙‍♀️ Mystery Tour , I am  New  as an Online seller for Denafrips,you can confirm on their website . I donot get dealers  cost for I would have to stock over $20k+  and that would not Fly  my wife she would go 🦍 sht on me.She has Another home addition going up and my Audio doesnot mix with the decor. I have  my demo room ,man cave 30x16 downstairs well fortified and booby trapped, Tunnel rats most welcome 🙏.  Back to Audio Denafrips has been in business 13 years now. After  the departure of Alvin to his new venture-best of luck to him, they were left with a void . They hired fresh New engineers 1 from  Cal Poly Tech which needs no introduction in its expertise in engineering. This  is where the Gen 15 originated. They took every existing model and moved it up a tier. The Terminator for example has the Same shielded Isolated dual Oven controlled clocks as the Terminator  plus ,just look on their website ,nothing to hide , that will be discontinued, The New Gen 15 Terminator can compete pretty easily with anything much more expensive .being in a multi state audio club ,gathering i hear much more then most ,being semi retired helps ! The Pontus 15= the Venus 12th just look and compare inside ,parts  ,the New Venus 15 will be out in a month , in the $3k range Pontus15 a true Best Buy bargain ,before anyone says Anything ,this has 2 levels or floors 2 layers of mu metal  for electrical isolation same as the Venus just look and compare the 2 ,Big 80va transformers for the critical D&A conversion .the 12th was BS for a upgrade being honest a few small  ad ons . The Gen 15 every. Product is better, 3 New Ares 15 reviews out on the their website , Venus 15 in  Nov  Having dual separate transformers is critical and huge banks of high quality filtering capacitance absolutely makes a difference,who else offers all this for well under $3k ? With the extras buy a DDC  or reclocker Why ? For by buffering the incoming digital signal , reclocking it and filtering regenerating a New signal I2S which is by far the best sounding Audio signal the dac doesnot have to work as hard decoding and you get a much better sounding output , , as far as pricing I only can present Retail $$ but a customer may email or call , discounts come out of my end ,not the companies , that is it in a 🥜 nut shell. Any questions please ask ,and as you can see almost 4,100 posts I have decades in audio and help people weekly and upgrade Xovers in loudspeakers  for over 20 years it’s a weak link in over 90% of loudspeakers ,say goes for much in electrinics, fancy case work 2-3x higher cost ,in my younger days as a drag racer it’s under the hood that counts most . Enjoy your 🎶 Music !!